OFFICIAL DISCUSSION: Floyd Mayweather Vs. Conor McGregor |August 26 2017

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  1. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    A zero fight am beating a 49-0 pro who is probably the best of our generation looks pretty bad to me. I am no Conor fan, the guy's ego is already out of control. He will be insufferable if he won and so will his fans. That's another downside.
     
  2. Anthony

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    I hear what you are saying, but im just not understanding the logic it will be a blow to boxing. So you have to deal with mcgreggor talking shit. and? Still wont change boxing standing in the world. People are still going to see the fights. It literally changes nothing. Mayweather is 40 years old, hasnt fought in two years, and is fighting a 28 year old power puncher. Anything crazy can happen in there. Conor beating old man floyd doesnt mean he beats GGG or Canelo or Thurman or Crawford.
     
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    It's not like people will go oh wow boxers are not as good as I thought...im done with the sport...ill start watching something else...maybe darts.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Yeah, if Conor wins, then maybe there are some things in boxing that we'd have to rethink. Perhaps it would prove that physical training can be done better than now, maybe it would prove that some boxing techniques are ineffective, at which point they would be developed. Both would actually make boxing better

    Plus, Conor doesnt win
     
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    Anthony, we have absolutely NO WAY of knowing that McGregor's MMA power will transfer over to boxing. It's also pretty ambitious to predict that a man who's never scored a stoppage in a boxing match can KO a man who's never been dropped, and has one of the top defenses of all time.

    It doesn't HAVE TO BE the Gatti version of Floyd to win this fight by stoppage. The Gatti version of Floyd is long gone... but on Saturday, he's in with a man who by ALL logic, appears to have SUBPAR boxing skill.
     
  6. Anthony

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    I dont disagree with any of this.
     
  7. Xplosive

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    Well, at this point, fuck it! No need in even debating it, cause we're not months out. We'll find out in 4 days.
     
  8. Hanz

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    Canelo/Chavez Jr did 1 million PPV buys. I think Canelo vs McGregor in Mexico would do well.
     
  9. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    McGregor will crush thus blllllack tomato-can in the first quarter of the fight.
     
  10. REEDsART

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    European Fighters Typically TRAVEL Well when Fighting in Vegas...Big Deal...

    Dwell on Floyd-Berto @ Your Leisure; FACT is, the 3 Highest Selling PPV's in Combative Sports History All Have 1 Thing in Common...

    Floyd Mayweather....

    It's Comical how a Handful of You MMA Guys are Trying to Make This ALL About McGregor, as if Floyd DOESN'T Have the 3 Highest Selling PPV's Ever...

    And if Mayweather-McGregor Surpasses Those 3, Floyd Will Have STILL Been the Headliner...

    Not Even Sure What's Being Debated Here...






    REED:cool:
     
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    Damn Shame the Company McGregor ACTUALLY Fights For WON'T Pay him as Much as Boxing Will...

    If He's This DRAW You and Others INSIST He Is, WHYtheFUCK is he Boxing???...

    And WHYtheFUCK is the Same Company, that WON'T Pay Him What Boxing Will, Getting a CUT of his Boxing Purse???...






    REED:cool:
     
  12. Hanz

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    Good points by REED.
     
  13. Anthony

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    All three against high PPV drawers. When he went against someone that couldn't draw flies to honey, it showed. although to mayweathers credit, he did bring in 400k on his name.
     
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    UFC is cheap as fuck that's for sure. If Conor fought Floyd in UFC (without the boxing alternative) the pay would literally go something like this 10 mill for Floyd 10 mill for Conor 500 mill for the UFC.
     
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    It'll be a blow to the credibility of boxing to the casual fan...if the supposed best fighter in boxing (which is what the casual fan thinks of Floyd) loses to an MMA guy who's a novice at boxing. It's simple logic....don't overanalyze it.
     
  16. Hanz

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    McGregor is under contract with the UFC and they're not going to allow him to leave. They'll get everything they can out of him no matter what.
     
  17. Anthony

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    I already told you why. Because nobody is going to pay 99 dollars for a 30 second fight. Which is exactly how long it would take for Conor to dispose of Mayweather in an MMA fight. People are willing to spend that money in boxing, where the opponent, mayweather actually has a shot. even if it is a small one. in MMA, there is no shot. You can sell a boxing fight to people. You wont sell an MMA fight. Nobody will ever believe floyd would last. So nobody will flush that money down that toilet.
     
  18. Anthony

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    Since when has boxing fans, ever been concerned with Casuals? Casuals haven't a clue about boxing anyways.
     
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    Agreed.

    Floyd will wipe him out in any case, possibly v early.
     
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    Oh they would still pay that's for sure. Just as mma fans are not generally knowledgeable about boxing, boxing fans are not knowledgeable about mma. A fight is a fight. It's us vs them mentality. Wherever this shit landed it would sell.
     
  21. Hanz

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    If the class action lawsuit goes though, UFC will be forced to open the books and expose just how much money was stolen from the fighters.
     
  22. Anthony

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    Nah. Nobody is going to pay for that shit man. you would pay 99 dollars for a fight you know is going to last 30 seconds? There is no shot for floyd.
     
  23. Anthony

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    bwaahahahaha. Hanzy stuck in 2015.
     
  24. Anthony

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    As he should
     
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    By Your OWN Admission, "The Diaz Brothers are Draws", So You Can Scratch McGregor's Top 2 PPV's, Using the Same Premise You're Trying to Use AGAINST Floyd...

    And the Alvarez Fight was an Unbelievably STACKED UFC Card, Which Again, By Your OWN Admission Shouldn't Be Attributed to Any Single Fighter...

    Even UFC 194 Had an UNDEFEATED Chris Weidman ("The Anderson Silva Killer") on the Undercard...

    S0000, Using the SAME "Logic" You're Using Against Floyd, What EXACTLY Has McGregor Done PPV Wise???...

    Can't Have it Both Ways...





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    It would sell. Casual fans by far are the majority. Shit talking sells. Conor would promise to keep it on the feet a video would "leak" of Floyd ourwrestling a wrestler and grappling with a Gracie...card would be stacked...are you kidding me??? By far it would do the best UFC numbers ever...by far...i think you underestimate how much people hate Floyd...thats why they tune in...you think they will tune in because they expect a great fight Saturday? Wake up man it's the popular kid vs the most hated kid and everyone's watching
     
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    You're wrong on this one. If it was a 1 fight ppv and on one hand Floyd vs a scrub and on the other Conor vs a scrub...conor does better numbers. Conor sells the shit out of fights. Floyd just shows up. People tune in to see him lose. If they perceive his opponent as a non threat they tune out AKA the berto fight.
     
  28. Anthony

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    Mcgreggor Alvarez didnt have any PPV draws other than Mcgreggor on it. He carried that card. woodly is a bore who you will probably never see on PPV again. Thompson is known by nobody. Alvarez never drew a dime.

    Same as Aldo vs. Mcgreggor. Aldo has never been a draw and nobody was there to see Luke Rockhold and wiedman. They were there for the big event a year in the making. The most marketed fight in UFC history. A marketing event in which aldo did nothing and mcgreggor carried.
     
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    No, REED's Point Is, Why Hasn't UFC Shelled Out Boxing Type Money to ANY MMAist Ever, PARTICULARLY Conor???...

    @ NO Point has REED Suggested UFC Pay 100mil Apiece for Floyd-McGregor in the Octagon...Not Sure WHERE You're Pulling That From...

    REED is Calling UFC's Pay Scale in it's ENTIRETY to the Carpet...The Same Way Randy Couture and Jon Jones Have, PRIOR to Conor...

    If McGregor's This Draw Ya'll Say he Is, Then he SHOULDN'T have to BOX to Generate a Career High Payday, Should He???...

    This Idea of UFC "Eventually Surpassing" Boxing is Being DEFECATED Upon by the Biggest UFC Star, in History, Engaging in a BOXING Match...And You Know BETTER than REED that Competition or a 'Challenge' has NATHAN to Do w/It...

    It's SOLELY Based on the FACT UFC has Clearly Demonstrated to Conor that he WON'T Make Boxing Money as an MMAist...





    REED:cool:
     
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    Now You're CONTRADICTING Yourself:D...

    Until THIS Particular Debate, You've Stated Numerous Times (Int his Same Thread) that "Stacked UFC Cards Sell Well", Yet when McGregor's on a "Stacked UFC Card", he CARRIED that Card, All of a Sudden???...

    Woodley was Coming Off a VERY Impressive KO of the Very Popular Robbie Lawler...More than that, Wonderboy was Being Built as Some REAL LIFE, Freakish, Undefeated, Streetfighter 2 Type of CURIOSITY...

    Beyond that, There was Another Title Fight on the Card, the Weidman-Romero Fight, Meisha Tate, w/Frankie Edgar and Numagomedov vs Johnson on the Prelims...

    You Know Good and Fucking Well McGregor DIDN'T "Carry" that Card, Dude...UFC INTENTIONALLY STACKED it because it was @ MSG...

    You Know MORE About MMA than REED Ever Will, but REED Knows MORE Than Enough about it to Fall for Bullshit Like You're Trying to Pull...



    REED:cool:
     

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