OFFICIAL DISCUSSION: Floyd Mayweather Vs. Conor McGregor |August 26 2017

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  1. Anthony

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    13 seconds.
     
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    For it being a boxing no no, lots of boxers do it.
     
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    Too bad for Conor he chose to box the absolute LAST guy in the world who would lead with his chin.
     
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    He generally got manhandled in there
     
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    McGregor is actually a huge snoop fan going back to his childhood...he must be really sad about snoops involvement :emoji_disappointed:
     
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    It's pretty weird, but it seems like we watched a different fight. I saw McGregor walk Floyd back a couple of times, and land lots of pathetic rabbit punches and hammerfists to the top of Floyd's head, but my impression was that Floyd controlled McGregor in almost every clinch. Did McGregor even land one legal shot inside?
     
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    The thing I've always noticed with Floyd is that he's not just some speedy slickster with great defence and movement. He's one hardened street nigga!! In other words he's strong and tough and can fight in the trenches if he desires. People don't seem to get this...and some seem surprised that he walked down a much bigger man in Conor (albeit a boxing novice ). Floyd has shown this on many occasions. Peep the Mayweather vs Burton (Augustus) fight. Look at how he manhandled Corrales in the clinches. Shit just look at him trading punches with Cotto in the pocked and walking through Miguel's bombs. Look at how he manhandled Mosley...even after being stunned. He even seemed stronger than the much bigger Alvarez in close. There's a reason why Floyd is undefeated. Slick boxing skills can only carry you so far in the game...to be a consistent winner you have to be a FIGHTER. That's is why i couldnt believe all these MMA guys thinking that Conor would manhandled Floyd in clinches and that Floyd would have to run to survive. In fact some boxing fans were actually thinking the same.
     
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    There's no knowledgeable boxing fan that should have expected Conor to manhandle Floyd and make him run.

    It was easy to predict that Floyd was gonna stand right in front of this novice, and hammer him on the inside. McGgregor hasn't the slightest idea about how to in-fight in boxing. It should have been apparent that Floyd was gonna take an aggressive approach.

    The only surprise was Floyd giving away the first 3. From the 4th on, the fight went *insert Manny Steward quote*
     
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    Floyd is a very physically strong guy, he actually overpowered Shane Mosley too as Sly mentioned.

    However, the line of thinking that goes 'MMA guys grapple more so McGregor will dominate clinches' is even more fundamentally wrong. It is about the same as saying that a marathon runner beats 800m runner because the distance is so easy for him.

    Floyd and other boxers have just the power and strength to control the clinch situations that happen in boxing matches. Under MMA rules McGregor might know some techniques to use, but if it were about strength and if it were useful in boxing, then boxers would be stronger
     
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    Boxing clinches are really different to other combat sports - there is LOTS of subtle trickery that goes on in the clinches.
     
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    Agreed on Floyd just being an overall badass.

    I've always known he was VERY physically strong, more than he looks and his weight suggests. Also a very good, underrated infighter.

    But despite fighting a highly overmatched foe, I couldn't help but be impressed on Saturday the way a slow, 40 year old Floyd who kind of looked he just rolled out of bed still effortlessly walked down this supposed elite power puncher - who was 11 years younger and about 20 pounds heavier - like he was absolutely nothing, without getting out of 2nd gear.
     
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    This weekend I watched a 60 year old pool player defeat a 21 year old volleyball Olympic Gold Medalist...IN A GAME OF POOL!! I am so impressed!!
     
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    Not really comparable though are they. Conor himself is from a boxing background, and punches people for a living. He literally wins all his fights - boxing.
     
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    That's because a big component of being rough and effective on the inside is based on foot positioning and balance, and Conor, obviously, has zero knowledge of those intricacies.

    Floyd knows how how to leverage his physical strength in the ring, and McGregor hasn't got a clue. Hence, Floyd threw him around like a child.

    I know the MMA fan boys must have been watching that with their jaws dropped.
     
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    I never said the volleyball player never played pool in his life. He plays with his friends here and there on the weekends
     
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    LMAO @ ANYONE being impressed by ANYTHING floyd did. You guys shouldn't be impressed if he ko'ed Conor with a jab 10 seconds in. It was a complete mismatch on paper....but BOSS he's 40...lol a 50 year old Hopkins would never lose as much as a minute to a 0-0 novice..nevermind a round nevermind FOUR FUCKING ROUNDS! People who are impressed by Floyd are just looking to put down MMA. Simple as that. If Conor was just some random guy who was 0-0 and not a UFC superstar you guys would say how embarrassing Floyd's performance was. But no so hey it's your chance to shit on MMA and praise your beloved boxing. Take off your agenda glasseses and grow up.
     
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    Didn't you pick McGregor???
     
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    For fun. You really think I expected him to win by ko1 ? Cmon now
     
  19. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    José Aldo boxing looks infinitely better than anything I've seen of McGregor.

    But like you said, charged in with his face-first 2 years ago.
    That's what Latin machismo can do for you...
     
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    lol at the heated sparring tag, Was a very low intensity sparring session. lol
     
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    BOSS is actually correct here (even though its an opinion): so many Boxing fans were against this fight and leading up to it, more than a little nervous of the outcome.
    It was absolutely essential that Mayweather win this fight in their eyes.

    Now that he has, the entire McGregor/MMA/UFC bashing is now in avalanche mode: ´Nah-nah....nah-nahhh-nah - told you so!´

    Yet funnily enough, most of the experts I´ve heard (not those on here, mind) -i.e. those who work for a living in Boxing, commentators, boxers, ex-boxers, trainers, actually say that McGregor accounted himself pretty we given the short notice from when the fight was made.

    I´m certain that the Boxing hardcore in here are still pretty irked by it all after reading the posts since the fight...
     
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    McGregor without a doubt acquitted himself decently. Was impressed by his foot work and shifting in the early rounds. But he didn't acquitted himself so well that he deserved more than a few praises. PBF was obviously taking it very slowly in the early rounds, and McGregor power was virtually non-existant.


    Anybody that tought that PBF would destroy him in a few seconds is an idiot. McGregor is much bigger, is trained in boxing to a certain level, and most importantly, old PBF don't blitz anybody.
     
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    Here´s an honest, non-hidden-agenda type question for you: do you think a 6-month-trained, proper sparring-partnered McGregor would have any better success against that same Mayweather?
     
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    he didn't throw any shots inside. can't really give credit to floyd for that; it just wasn't part of mcgregor's game plan.

    and in the clinches when mcgregor spun round and got to floyd's back, as pointless as it was, you can't really say floyd was controlling that clinch
     
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    BTW, I agree with the non-existant power from McGregor - it seemed to me at time like he was wearing 14oz sparring gloves.
    And given that the late-announcment that this fight would be using 8oz and not 10oz gloves, I´d have expected far more aggression and in Rds 1-3...and yet he stated he was saving himself for later rounds: Why??

    He and everyone on the planet knew he couldnt hang with Mayweather down the stretch so I don´t understand that comment at all.
     
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    I know, but I don't consider McGregor spinning around behind Floyd like a bitch to be controlling him either. It was utterly pointless and did no damage.

    Overall I think Floyd for the better of the clinches by far, McGregor succumbed to Floyd's classic forearm to the throat at least as much as boxers.
     
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    I agree. I tried to find one that didn't say that but clickbait was strong
     
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    How well did Aldo do in the Mikey sparring? I haven't watched it yet, but I saw him sparring Delgado, and he certainly didn't embarrass himself, but Delgado wasn't trying at all - just helping him learn, and still easily controlled with nothing more than a jab.
     
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    Yup. That's why I laugh at the Tex & mex connection accusing me of being nut hugger. Actual boxing experts and former champs are giving mcgregor way more credit than I am.
     
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    Because if Conor did a forearm to the throats everyone would be going crazy and accusing him of being dirty.
     

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