Gennady Golovkin vs. Canelo Álvarez: Sept 16 2017 - Official thread

That's exactly what Golovkin was doing for most of the rounds. Controlling the flow of the fight, and outlanding his foe.

And there is no comparison with Ali - Foreman. Foreman was rushing forwards wailing away like a retard while Ali waited for him to tire.

Golovkin was patiently stalking and controlling Alvarez as he did so, with his excellent jab and timing, with great sense of distance and solid footwork.

 

Very good point. Patience is a virtue as a pressure fighter, and kind of seperates the scrubby pressure fighters from the elite ones.

But it's a fine line isn't it. Too patient and you end up like Rocky Juarez.

I agree GGG was too patient, he needed to be more Duran like - just a bit more assertive and not let Canelo breathe.

You're right he was having most success by doing just that, setting a pace and level of pressure that Canelo couldn't cope with, he looked lost in the middle rounds at the constant pressure.

 

Alalaide is a cross dresser!

 

I think an immediate rematch is best for GGG and worst for Canelo.

You will find out soon enough just who carried more bruises out of the fight.......if Canelo stalls, as I suspect he will, then that will say it all.

They want GGG to get a bit slower again and they want time for Canelo to recover.

Nobody comes out of a fight with GGG without lasting damage of some sort.

 

Boxing judges are far better than the typical fightbeat fan at scoring fights (see Pac-Brad 1..).
I cant give a proper scorecard as I only saw the last 4 rounds in entirety, but of these Canelo looked to be the 'better' boxer and GGG looked to be busier, albeit less effective. Canelo landed some bombs, GGG landed mostly jabs and glancing blows.

 

LOL at Canelo wanting to wait a fucking year before the rematch. Wait till GGG gets even older and slower. What a bitch.

 

I think many of you need to rewatch this fight. I just looked at round 1...initially I scored it for GGG based on activity alone...and even at the time I felt that Alvarez looked better. In looking at it again...GGG was only hitting gloves and air...save for ONE right hand...Alvarez hit GGG with over 5 shots. If a man is scoring based on EFFECTIVE AGGRESSION and not just on activity he has NO CHOICE but to score the first round for Alvarez. Look at round one again.

 

I'm just saying, "he did more damage to the body," is not in and of itself criteria for winning, just like, "he landed more head shots," does not necessarily mean he won either. As far as ward/kov, I do not see how it is relevant at all.

 

Golovkin landed like 10 jabs or more in round 1, and controlled Alvarez.

And Golovkin's jab is like a power punch, it's fucking hard. It needs to be scored more than most jabs.

 

Nothing is relevant except that boxing is fucking itself dry.

118-110.


SMH.

 

Pretty Much...




REED

 

The 10-9 system hurts Golovkin more than it hurts any other fighter I can think of right now. He wins his rounds in a far more convincing fashion than his opponents win theirs.

Canelo won rounds, Adelaide Fucktard aside, by creating excitement.

Golovkin won his by controlling and dictating and back his man around the place like a farmer controlling an unruly bull that farted and kicked up dirt.

 

GGG did NOT land 10 jabs...even if compubox said so. Unless you count landed jabs if it hits the gloves of the opponent. Be honest man...be sincere. Look at it again and tell me that you honestly saw GGG land 10 jabs on Canelo's face in round one.

 

But that's weird, I mean, you thought Canelo would win, so surely Canelo is worse and Golovkin better than you thought?

 

By the way Hut and Sly - regarding my scores being at all biased - that's simply not the case.

Years and years ago I was more biased towards my favourite fighters, but these days I'm objective - I score a fight as I see it. As I said, I was very objective when it came to Golovkin - Jacobs.

And let me just say, I thought Floyd won every single round against Canelo. So if anything, I just don't score Canelo's shitty, lazy style of fighting highly. He simply does not do enough. I've never been a fan of fighting for 30 seconds a round, and spurt fighting to steal rounds.

In both his losses, I feel Canelo was controlled by more skilled boxers, and simply didn't do enough. He was better against Golovkin, but still didn't do anywhere near enough to win.

 

Neil realizing GGG can't dent Canelo's chin.

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You need to take off the blinders bruh.

Round 1 was nothing more than a jabbing contest, and GGG win that by at least 2-1. All of these "shots" that you had Canelo hitting GGG with were either partially blocked or were dodged. Slow mo is your friend.

Bottom line with regards to round 1. Power shots were pretty close to even, and Golov won the jabbing war easily.

 

MWS realizing that at no time in his life does GayBox have anything close to the power or skills needed to "beat the fuck out of Canelo."

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LOL, you thought Canelo would win. Not only that, but you scored it for Canelo. That should be a bannable offense.

 

Ggg easily won round 1. Fact anyone is even debating that is surprising. There were some close rounds when canelo actially threw some punches. But round 1 was not one of them.

 

I actually didn't watch the fight. Well, I was getting ready to go out while watching live streams on facebook. I thought it would be a good, close fight (my post in the predictions thread about Canelo winning every round was a joke.)


YOU thought this fight would look like GGG-Brook. Do you know who Canelo is? Ever seen him fight? You better ask somebody!

 

The rounds Golovkin won i think in my mind he was winning via boxing and the rounds Canelo won he was winning via slugging

 

Agreed, there is no argument for Canelo winning. He threw and landed almost nothing. Clear GGG round.

 

Btw, isn't it funny when ggg tries to land his right hand to the top of his opponent's head? It is funny the way he loops it over.

 

Er, if you didn't watch, then why the hell did you just post that Canelo won? .

I know Canelo is better than Brook but I thought it could be similar yeah, with him landing some good flashy shots early, then basically getting walked down and beaten up. I admit Canelo is significantly tougher than I expected, especially at middleweight.

But yeah I know Canelo well. It's the same Canelo that arguably lost to Lara and Trout, couldn't even stop Cotto, and lost every single round and looked like a scrub against little Floyd.

 

Yo, we don't always agree but I respect you as a poster and a genuinely think you scored it for GGG with minimal bias (not zero bias though).

But let's be honest here...you would say that it's impossible to objectively score rounds 1-3 and 10-12 for Canelo? Round 6 too?

 

I've always found that very strange actually, and wondered why he does it. Doesn't seem like the best place to land a shot.

What's even more bizarre, is didn't he actually KO Rubio with a weird looping shot to the top of the head?

 

Sly, sure thing, I do respect you as a poster too - even though we do sometimes disagree and seem to have different taste in fighters.

Um, I think if you were being as generous as possible, you could score 5 rounds for Canelo. Which would be 2 and 3, and 10 to 12. I don't see an argument for him winning round 1 or any other tbh. That would be being particularly damn generous though and giving him every benefit of the doubt for mounting a comeback in the later rounds.

 

Danny knows the score, says Canelo in no way deserved a draw, and did hardly anything from round 4 onwards. Correctly calls him a spurt fighter, and says once Gennady warmed up it pretty much all Gennady.



How many boxing sites scored it for Canelo compared to Golovkin?