How good is Vasyl Lomachenko?

In your opinion?

Overrated?
Underrated?
Just right?

For me, he's been my favourite fighter since the Russell fight, and I've considered him the best P4P fighter for a good while even though I haven't actually ranked him at the #1 spot, purely because of resume.

I think the guy is unique, maybe the best footwork I've seen, beautiful creativity, combination punching, aggressiveness and a willingness to please the fans WHILST also being defensively sound. I was born in '84, so was too young to truly appreciate that decade, but in my lifetime he is right up there with anybody when it comes to boxing talent.

 

I would say he's rated just right. He's neither overrated or underrated. High percentage of those who watch him know he's a special talent.

 

I think he is rated just right. Right at the top of the pound for pound rankings where he belongs.

Loma is a very special talent. Future ATG for sure. Some of the things he does in the ring is simply jaw dropping. I knew this guy was going to be a great pro when I watched him in the olympics. I look forward to many more exciting matchups for him.

 

He is rated properly by Bob arum, alongside ali and leonard if not higher

 

P4P #1 good, ya heard?

BTW I've been a fan since Beijing, but it's good to see new bangwagoners hop aboard, especially fellow Pacquiao brethren like you Slicey ;)

 

He's got a LONG ways to go before he can even be mentioned in the same breath as Ali and Leonard.

Hell, he's a ways to go before he reaches Floyd's greatness, and those two men rank higher than Floyd.

Loma's excellent though... he's a lot much more talented, skilled, and exciting version of Calzaghe.

 

Here’s the crazy thing. We haven’t even seen his chin tested yet. What if this fucker has an iron chin to boot! That would be a wrap!

 

A think he's a tad overrated, as I don't think he has the potential and talent of a PBF, Pacquiao or RJ, but he's the best right now (I have it at 1 since the Walters fight) and he's good enough to get in the top 50, top 25 best ever.

 

He's amazing, so much that I wouldn't be surprised to see him in GOAT discussion's 12 yearsnfrom now. My only concern is how will he.respond vs inside monsters with an hard punch (think of JCC), unfortunately, it seems there's no fighter that fits the mold curently

 

I’m not sold on Lomachenko yet. Part of me expects him to be exposed soon. We don’t know how good his chin is. What if he faces someone that can nullify his footwork tricks and workrate? Honestly I think that even an old Pacquiao will ask a lot of questions of this guy.

He’s very good, don’t get me wrong, but even people assuming he beats Mickey Garcia....I’m not so sure about that.

 

His chin is a question mark.

But as of now, I have him at number one. Terence Crawford is behind him, followed by Triple G, and Spence.

 

His chin would've had to be somewhat decent to withstand salido. So cannot be awful.

 

HBO was wrong about saying only one loss (Salido) for Rigon and Loma since 2003. Loma lost to Selimov at the 2007 world am finals.

 

He's a treat to watch and he's certainly among the top 3 fighters PFP in the world. He might even be the best but there's certainly question marks regarding his chin and power. I believe he'll have a hard time reaching ATG status because he's already nearing 30 and because there aren't numerous outstanding fighters around his weight class. Because of that I wouldn't be surprised to see him get derailed at higher weights chasing greatness. With that said, I root for him to reach a mythical status, no doubt about that. He's an awesome fighter of the type that might be deemed generational in a few years.

 

You thought Gondo would dominate him, the reverse happened yet you're still not sold on him? WTF?

 

I thought he might be overrated. Especially going into the Walters fight. But in light of that outcome, and now the Rigo fight, not to mention the win over Russell which was amazingly one-sided, I'd say he is rated just about right now. Have to say, despite the dirty tactics and weight advantage, Salido's win is looking more and more impressive. Will have to watch it again to see exactly what improvements Loma has made. Surprising Loma did not make a point of avenging that loss. Too late now probably.

 

You think he's P4p #1 and possibly top 25 best ever? You can't think he's particularly overrated at all then, I mean, who rates him even higher than that?

 

I think he has the potential to be in the top 25 ever. but some are acting like he pretty much has already done enough to warrant such acclaims (well, they don't go as far, but you get the point), hence why I think he's a tad overrated. I mean, some are acting like a Mickey Garcia fight would only be a formality.

Only have to take a look at that retard Jeffy over here. Guy brand me as a hater just cause I refuse to annoint him as the next best thing just yet

 

Fair enough. We probably rate him the same btw, but I wouldn't say he was overrated. In fact I'd say he was underrated until now, it seems only now people are realising OK, this guy really is the best fighter in the world.

Garcia is too good to be a formality, and bigger, but I would pick Chenko with a lot of confidence, especially at 135.

 

yeah, I rebember both of us being high on him at the Pekin game, my little crook nosed friend


I still maintain that Pekin Loma was more explosive and a harder puncher than the current version

 

You two know more about am boxing than me, how come Selimov never turned pro? He looked a really good fighter.

 

Skill wise he is definitely up there with the best fighters ever. He looks comfortable in every aspect of a fight. Whether it's the outside, inside or in the clinches.

He is one of the smartest fighters I have ever seen, he knows how to be in position to land and avoid punches at the same time. As Whiskey pointed out with Rigo on Saturday; he didn't throw big punches that Rigo easily dodges but pity pat punches to set Rigo up.

In addition to that Loma has the best footwork I have ever seen.

His main issue with going down as one of the greatest fighters of all time is going to be competition. All the way up to 140 the only great fighter is Mikey Garcia. There's solid fighters like Corrales, Linares, Tank and Berchelt who looks like his next opponent.

I'd say he will definitely be on the top 100 list of all time. To get higher he is going to have to go to 147 where the top competition is.

 

Vasyl Lomachenko is far better at 11-1 than Floyd Mayweather Jr was at 24-0

 

Hed be older and more experienced. Does he win? I'm skeptical of that, vs a bigger, skilled guy who is as quick and athletic. And who hits harder

 

Well, my caveat to that was the 24-0 - i.e. just before Mayweather's first real big noise when he dispatched Corralles (still at 130lb)

 

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Lomachenko is a very good fighter, potentially great even, but NO ONE...is "far better" than Floyd. That's just silly talk.

 

Floyd would have beaten Loma at 130. No doubt in my mind.

 

No it isn't.
You're thinking with your dick as usual as all the images of Mayweather are flooding your brain and your endorphin system is overloading when in fact you don't actually know much about Mayweather pre-2000/Corrales because you hadnt swung over onto his nutsack yet due to the other boxer you were crazy about at the time, Félix Trinidad, occupying your peanut-like brain.

At 130lb and 24 fights, Mayweather had just two 'names' on his win-list, (old-man Hernandez and Manfredy) and a highlight-reel of crazy rope-jumping.....and he'd not made anyone quit. He was just 'speed'.

But, just to show you I'm objective about all this I'll revise the original message by removing the superlative:
'Vasyl Lomachenko is better at 11-1 than Floyd Mayweather Jr was at 24-0'

 

You're a bonafide idiot. When Floyd was 24-0 he had a 90% KO ratio...he's wasn't making them quit, he was knocking them the fuck out.