Rank these in order of importance

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  1. BOSS

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    Self explanatory thread. If you don't get it then you're slow and your input is a waste of time anyway.

    Chin
    Stamina
    Jab
    Power
    Body punching
    Defense
    Heart
    Movement
    Killer instinct
    Confidence
    Speed
     
  2. Double L

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    Good thread
     
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    Defence
    Chin
    Stamina
    The rest
     
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    I know.
     
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    Using a very broad definition, I'd say heart is the most basic attribute any person that's looking to fight for a living needs to have... perhaps a more specific term like courage or nerve, whatever the word... I don't mean this like fighters need to be Saad Muhammad... I mean just the basic courage to get in there knowing you're going to get hit, even the guys we think of as huge cowards in the spot like a Camacho Jr still have more toughness than a typical person

    I know I'm breaking it down to the absolute baseline here so I can get totally see where somebody else might give a different answer after assuming the basic culling of "boxer" from "regular dude"
     
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    Heart is useless without the ability to take or avoid a punch. Taking and or avoiding punches isthe very basics a fighter needs to have plus stamina of course. Stamina can be trained but chin is innate
     
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    Skills are useless without the nerve to get in the ring.
     
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    Yup confidence wins.
     
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    Nerve to get into the ring is a given for someone who wants to be a boxer. “Heart” should be referring to courage once you’re in the fight not courage to get into the ring to fight. That’s stoooopid
     
  10. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    Top 5:
    Defense
    Speed
    Stamina
    Movement
    Cherry
    -pick...er...I mean, Tactical Matchmaking

    If you have these, then like Floyd Mayweather, a good chin, power, body-punching, confidence, killer instinct aren't that important.
     
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    Exactly
     
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    You people underestimate confidence. It's EASILY number 1. Everything starts and ends with confidence.
     
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    What if you´ve got massive confidence but a chin/defense like Amir Khan?
     
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    Then you suck. But confidence is the first ingredient for success not just in boxing but in life. Say Ali or Mayweather or Tyson or anyone great were scared to get in there didn't go in with the attitude of I'm winning it and that's that. They wouldn't go far.
     
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    Okay, but surely confidence is something all boxers attain years from training in the gym at an early age, pre-professional - it gets drilled into them?
     
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    Look at Golota. Nah.
     
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    Hmmm...was that lack of confidence or just the fact he was a nutter?
    He went in twice with, arguably one of the best heavies in the world at the time, Riddick Bowe, and looked totally at ease.
     
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    Until he lost he was confident yes. Then he was garbage. I think the true confident fighters are the ones that face pain/ loss and come back to still be great. Like Ali. Fighters who lose and are never the same again now those ones weren't that confident in the first place because if it's so easily gone then it wasn't really there in the first place.
     
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    Okay, that´s sound logic.
    How do you rate Mike Tyson´s confidence, pre and post Holyfield I and II?
     
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    This is why I struggle to post on this forum these days...with a few exceptions, y'all are a bunch of pendejos.

    Confidence was useless to Eric Crumble. The guy stepped into the prize ring some 30 times and got knocked out every single time and yet kept coming back for more. He obviously wasn't lacking confidence. At any rate he obviously wasn't scared to get into the ring, since he did it 30+ times!!! The guy wanted to fight even though he kept getting knocked out. However he couldn't get anywhere because OBVIOUSLY he didn't have a chin or any defense. So let's not be silly now and please just stick to the spirit of the thread: to have any success in boxing you need to first have at least a chin or a defense.

    Putas! Cabrones!! (I love these Spanish expletives lol)
     
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    For all any of us know, Eric Crumble just thought falling down was a nice way to make a few bucks and never tried at all
     
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    Ugh you dumbass mother fucker. Confidence is the first ingredient. No the ONLY ingredient.
     
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    Confidence comes with success. Without chin and or defense there's no success. As you were vagrant.
     
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    You can have a pretty decent career without a chin. Alcine was a respectable world champion and he was made of papier mache. And le'ts not even start with wlad pussy
     
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    I would say movement. Without it, you will always be out of position and unbalanced, cause the other guy will outmaneuver you. Making pretty mucvh every other attributes moot. This is the true difference between a boxer and a brawler
     
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    Heart for sure. You need it to undergo all the training and sacrifice. And of course being able to take a punch, go another round when your tired.

    It's not easy to learn the skills. You need that heart/mental toughness to drill on them over and over again so that you learn it to the point it's second nature.
     
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