Best fighter with the worst jab

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  1. BOSS

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    Shane Mosley springs to mind.
     
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    Joe Frazier?
     
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    Frazier actually had a good jab when he utilized it.

    I think for once, Sly is right on Mosley. Shane had a flicking jab for the most part.
     
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    No lie... I remember an issue of KO or World Boxing in like 2001 or 2000 that had a "best of everything" special edition and the best jab was........ Shane Mosley
     
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    That was around the same time that A LOT of people were calling him better than Leonard.
     
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    I remember thinking "man I must have a lot more to learn than I thought because I'm not seeing this"
     
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    In those days, Shane was "the perfect fighter" apparently.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Mosley won the jab battle in the first dlh fight. He had a decent one. Tua had no jab to speak of, but not sure we can consider him good
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Why??? Mosley outjabbed DLH in that fight. Pretty much every observers made mention of it
     
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    It wasn't a battle of jabs. De La Hoya hardly threw any jabs...Shane Mosley only threw flick jabs. Oscar was just trying to knock him out...stalking him without any regard for the incoming and just trying to get close and wing big left hooks upstairs and down. Shane was doing fancy pivots, and switching stance, and rolling his gloves and looking cute...but he wasn't jabbing down the place AT ALL, and Oscar wasn't jabbing up the place AT ALL and Shane merely out slugged Oscar with his faster hands.

    Look at the fight again.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Nah, shane jab was pretty effective in that fight. He didnt won the fight simply by outjabbing dlh, but it was a contributive factor
     
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    Manny Pacquiao's jab isn't particularly good. He mainly uses it as a range finder rather than a weapon of its own.
     
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    Shane doesn't have an authoritative jab.
     
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    No, he doesn't quality. Just like Frazier, Marciano had a solid jab when he utilized it.
     
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    Nigel Benn was allergic to throwing jabs. I honestly don't recall him ever throwing one.

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    Would have been interesting to see Foreman call a Benn fight.

    "Where's that leffff JAAABB at? Ya gotta be able to use that lefff JAABBB!"
     
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    Benn actually is on record saying that, in his view, a jab is a waste of a punch: 'what is the point of throwing a jab when you can throw a left hook instead?' were the words I think he used.

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    Haha. Funny if true.
     
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    No one ever confused Benn with having a high ring IQ.
     
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    He definitely said it, or words close to it. It's in one of his books.

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    Mosley's jab was serviceable in setting up his offense but it wasn't a WEAPON, per say. It wasn't a punch Mosley was ever able to use to great effect. Fernando Vargas had a better jab than Mosley and he's not a guy that comes to mind when you think of a great jabber.

    Zab Judah is a guy that comes to mind for me. Despite the physical gifts and athletic qualities, he never showed a good jab. Not in terms of consistency at least.

    Keith Thurman, despite all his movement and flash has no jab. Pure leap amateur.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Jean Pascal is also an e-light guy who never used the jab
     
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    In what alternate universe was Jean Pascal ever an elite fighter? Certainly not in this universe.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    well, he beat a top 5 top 10 p4p guy. Not really elite, but that's why I said he was e-light. Pretty much like Benn
     

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