Best fighter with worst defense

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  1. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Jermain Taylor springs to mind, even though I never viewed him as elite. Many did, though. If Hopkins wasn't so spooked at the size and power of Taylor, he could have either stopped him or won a clear decision with no controversy.

    Evander Holyfield has to be mentioned. At least in his earlier heavyweight days.

    Bowe, even at his best was atrocious, defensively.
     
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  2. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Glen Johnson was landing right hands at will too.
     
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    Rubin “Hurricane” Carter
     
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    Carter was a low level contender who go lucky against a great fighter who jumped up too quick without gaining enough weight ... if he'd fought Emile 1000 times, he'd lose 999 times
     
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  5. BOSS

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    Damn right. If he had good defense he would have never been convicted.
     
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    Cdogg is selling Carter a bit short. The guy was a bit one dimensional, but he was a murderous puncher with fast hands. If he was around today 100% he would have at least picked up a belt or two at 154-160.
     
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  7. cdogg187

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    Well that's no big accomplishment... today is shite

    Carter for his era was a pretender... he had one shot and got schooled ... basically he could punch

    If Gatti and Mayorga are laughable nominees for this thread, then Carter clearly is
     
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    Carter was a lot better than both Gatti and Mayorga.
     
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    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    alvarez KO1 huracán carter
     
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  10. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Marquez was elite level without great defense. He was always hittable.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Carter is exactly the type of fighter than Ginger would duck.
     
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  12. cdogg187

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    Based on WHAT exactly??
     
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  13. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Ummm... based on the fact he iced an all time great. Fluke or not, the queer still got stretched.

    Da fuck Gatti and Mayorga ever do?
     
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  14. whiskey

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    Then Buster Douglas is great too.
     
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  15. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Yeah, carter is not greater than mayorga.
     
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  16. Xplosive

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    Whoa whoa whoa! When the Hell did I ever say Carter was "great?" Definitely not. But he was more than a scrub.. which puts him a level above Gatti and Mayorga.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Btw, Douglas win over Tyson obliterates anything Gatti or Mayorga ever did. And Buster was miles better than both those punching bags.
     
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  18. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Youre selling mayorga short. Guy gave hell to 2 great fighters in mosley and cotto, and beat a few solids ones. He was far from a scrub
     
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