“Pretty boy” Floyd “Money” Mayweather Jnr. Vs Marlon Starling at 147

Terry Norris is a sure bet to beat PBF. He's a style nightmare for him.

 

Did you or did you not pick Hatton to defeat Mayweather?

 

Agreed but this thread is about starling

 

Yes, with the express caveat that it was a 'heart over head' pick. I've not picked Mayweather to lose a single other bout he contested, ever. But according to you, I'd pick a grandmother over him...

...Like I said, an absolute load of shite.

MTF

 

Who was better than Norris

 

Don´t bring Starling´s opposition into the equation and we won´t enlighten you as to which of them would´ve beaten Mayweather

 

Based on styles, Norris would have beaten Starling.

 

Good luck getting cdogg to admit that. He hates Norris for the same reason Neil Diamond hated his keyboard player.

 

Starling wasn't a big enough puncher to crack Terry's chin, and from the outside, Norris with his better handspeed and movement should have the edge.

By the same token, also based on styles, Norris would have fared much worse against Nunn.

Nunn would have put Norris to sleep.

 

Starling hit hard enough to hurt Norris, easily

If Norris went after Starling he'd get KOd

I'm assuming a healthy "prime" Starling not the washed up welterweights Norris actually fought (including Starling's son, Simon, who knocked him out)

And has been said, Norris doesn't go 5 rounds with Nunn while Nunn appeared unable to make much of an impression on Starling over 12 rounds despite Starling having never had fought at 160 before

 

My wife could hurt Norris

 

Agreed.

Also, I don't think Starling was better than Norris

 

Yeah I mean he beat better fighters and didn't need to win all of his fights against guys who were smaller and more shopworn than him and he didn't get knocked out 17 times and he schooled a prime version of the same fighter that knocked Norris out so I could totally see that logic, duuude

 

Which better fighter did he beat? Mark Breland?

And yeah, if you want to nitpick , it's easy to tear apart pretty much anyone resume (not that Norris had a great one)

 

Cdogg has always let his Norris hate get to his head. There's a number of great welters/juniors middles in history who beat Norris, but Starling probably isn't one of them. I'm not gonna say that Starling would have no chance, that'd be foolish... but the styles favor Terry.

Starling was a top rate technician... but Cdogg overrates the shit outta him. No question about that. Cdogg talks about Moochie as if he was Ezzard Charles type good.

The TRUTH is... Tomas Molinares clocked his ass with one punch. I don't giving a flying fuck that I happened JUST after the bell (less than a second after the bell), Starling wasn't caught off guard. The two were in the heat of an exchange that happened JUST after the bell, and Starling got flattened. There's no way Cdogg can defend that, because had the exchange happened less than a second earlier, it's a clean KO for Molinares.

Since Starling was "supposedly" better than Mike McCallum (comical), please let me know when McCallum got flattened by a bum like Molinares.

 

LOL How about Simon Brown? He also embarrassed Lloyd Honeyghan

What good fighter his own size did Terry Norris beat? I'll be waiting a long time for an answer because there isn't one

Starling beat Brown at his best weight and in his prime, he beat the fuck out of Honeyghan and beat Breland twice (unofficial but everybody knows the draw was absurd) ... that's 4 wins better than anything Norris ever did

And like I said, Starling wasn't knocked dead a bunch of times and he didn't need to fight guys a division smaller in order to hold on to a belt

 

How many times do I have to respond to this same shit strawman post? use the search function and find this imaginary McCallum post you keep pretending exists at least once a year

 

You know damn well I don't have the time to go through 15+ years of MM threads to find one post. I have a pretty good memory, and remember you making the statement that Starling and McCallum were the same level fighter.

Just like I remember once upon a time when Double said that Castillo could beat Whitaker, Pryor, and would have a good chance at Hearns.

 

You just said a second ago that I said he was BETTER

In reality what I said (this is now probably the TENTH time I've said this) is that McCallum was better because he had a better career, was more consistent and more dedicated than Moochie ... he's greater but that Starling on his best night was definitely a fighter of McCallum's caliber and no one has yet explained to me how that's demonstrably untrue or provided me with a McCallum victory or performance that proves it

 

Well to the answer the first question... Norris totally outclassed a prime Jorge Castro in a very impressive performance.

He also destroyed Carl Daniels who was undefeated coming in. Daniels certainly wasn't anything great, but you said "good" fighters... and Daniels was a good fighter.

Secondly, yes, Norris had a tendency to feast on faded welters.... and Starling was a WELTERWEIGHT! Fits right into Terry's MO.

 

Jorge Castro and Carl Daniels??? Are you serious??

Well yeah I'm sure if Starling had come out of retirement in 1993 to fight Norris, he'd have lost ... what does that prove?

Norris didn't even beat up prime welterweights, he stuck to guys that were either shot or clearly getting there

 

You aren't gonna find me defending Norris all night, because I'm no Norris fan. I'll admit that his three best wins came over washed up guys who were above their best weight.

It goes without saying that had he fought the Leonard of 10 years earlier, he would have gotten destroyed.

And had he fought the Curry of 7 years earlier, he most likely would have gotten taken apart.

He always beats Taylor, simply cause Mel was too small.

"Like I said before" I'm not discounting Starling's chance.... I think just think the styles favor Terry.

 

The Mugabi fight was hella impressive also. Yeah I know, he was ''shot'', but a lot of fighters had a tendancy to be considered shot after Norris plowed through them, even if it wasn't the case beforehand

 

How can Simon Brown be an example of a better fighter Starling beat, if Norris also beat him ??? (yeah I know, he needed two try)

 

Starling also beat a green Brown who was still 3 years away from his peak. Would it matter? Probably not. He'd probably always be too skilled for Brown. Just saying, let's not pretend that Simon was at his peak.

The first Breland fight and the Honeyghan fight were Starling's two best performances.

 

LMAO

 

Because Brown was over the hill and above his peak weight when Norris beat him (after getting KOd by him)

 

He was closer to peak than he was against Norris and Moochie walked him down and whupped him

 

I definitely agree that Norris got smoked by a past prime Brown.. and that does hurt his legacy. Even though he avenged the loss, still, he shouldn't have had to.

 

I’d favor Floyd to win a close, perhaps controversial decision