DLH vs Sweet pea - who REALLY won?

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  1. Punk

    Punk "Twinkle Toes" McJack Staff Member

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    All I saw was Dela hitting air most of the night then raising his hands in triumph....at hitting air, which was fair enough as Pea was hard to hit - a close but clear Pea victory for me.
     
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    Same. Objectively speaking, Oscar lost to both Whitaker and Ike. The Tito fight he had won then blew. I had that a draw. He did win the Mosley rematch imo. Then of course, the total gift he got over Felix Sturm.
     
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    This is pretty accurate but I think Whitaker could have helped himself a lot by doing a lot more than posing and smirking when he made Oscar miss. Whitaker's corner seemed to be trying to tell him the same but he wasn't having it. One of those fights where the judges awarded the aggressor even though it wasn't particularly effective aggression. No doubt it helped that Oscar was a rising superstar in the sport and the crowed cheered on everything he did.
     
  4. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    Whitaker pissed on De La Hoya.
    The squealing girly-crowd and Jim Lampley probably say De La Hoya.

    LOL at the ´Pea Dance´:
     
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    I believe I had Whitaker by a point. De la didn't land anything, Whitaker didn't throw anything .
     
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    Whitaker threw and landed more punches

    Anyway Whitaker by two points
     
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    The impression was definitely this, but counting r-b-r I am not sure. Pernell made Oscar miss, but too often left it there
     
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    Roll With The Punches WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    DLH won that exchange though...
     
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    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I had it 113-113. Nightmare to score. Quartey fight was easier to score, DLH got lucky with the judges there.

    Most of those rounds were easy to score. Quartey doing little, Oscar doing nothing.

    I had him beating Tito 115-114, but I actually thought the Mosley rematch was tough to score and could have gone either way, despite what HBO and compubox said. A lot of close rounds.

    Sturm beat Oscar, even Oscar admits that now.
     
  10. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    Sure.
    He half-landed two right-hand leads and then completely missed with eight various left & right-hand shots at the end which resulted in his pathetic little run back to his corner, arm aloft to acknowledge the squealing 'teenyboppers'...
     
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    Roll With The Punches WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    precisely
    but if Whitaker had landed one glancing jab then he would have won that exchange
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I've gone back and forth on it.

    I think Pernell objectively won more rounds but it was close. I had it 7-5, and since both guys had points deducted (Whitaker for the head butt, and Oscar being knocked down), it evens out. However, I do feel that Pea let the fight go. Down the stretch, he did more clowning and posing and while De La Hoya wasn't really landing anything, he remained the aggressor, albeit ineffective.

    I thought Quartey also beat De La Hoya, although that one was more debatable due to Oscar closing the show the way he did.

    Like X, I feel Oscar could have won the Trinidad fight, but he fought like somebody who was way too spooked, particularly down the stretch where all he did was literally RUN from Trinidad.

    Thought he beat Mosley in that rematch, though. Shane just did nothing until the 9th round.

    I often remember how Oscar having gotten the benefit of the doubt in the fights with Whitaker and Quartey was seen as the protected fighter, and then against Trinidad and Mosley didn't get the benefit of the doubt and became almost a sympathetic figure in a lot of people's eyes. Me personally, I have no sympathy for him. For somebody who criticized Mayweather (And I too have criticized Floyd), he was guilty of doing a lot of the same things, just in a more subtle way.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    That pea dance is one of the great moment in boxing lol. Cracks me up everytime
     
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    I wasn't a Whitaker fan, but he clearly won that fight. by the end Oscar looked very frustrated and during the post fight interview he was making excuses like saying 'Hey you saw me losing tonight, but I could do better: REMATCH!' LOL
     
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    If memory serves, Pea won by 2 points on my card. Whether people think he was clowning or not is irrelevant. He outboxed ODLH and you score the fight for the guy who won, excluding personal bias’s such as who’s more relevant, up and coming or the guy who isn’t clowning.
     
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