Canelo tests positive for clenbuterol

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  1. puerto rock

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    Usually used in combination with steroids as a masking agent as well as a weight cutter.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Clen is pretty much strictly a fat burner. Won't gives you any advantage. Didn't knew it could be used as a masking agent. At least the fight is still on
     
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    I figure PED use is prevalent all over sports, I’m not really buying this “contaminated meat” thing they are selling.
     
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    Agreed a 100%

    I'm tired of this retrograde fight against PED. Let them use whatever the fuck they want, and let's be done with this
     
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    It's doubtful that a multi millionaire boxer like Canelo is eating contaminated meat on the daily. I'm more that sure he can afford that high quality ish.
     
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    So without the clen Canelo won't be able to make weight
     
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    Masking agent for steroids and helps you cut weight ...

    Yeah very difficult to imagine how that might help a guy in a sport where you get weighed and drug tested
     
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    Blames mexican cows.....lol

    Close because it's not cow but rather bull and no meat but rather shit
     
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    No don’t buy it, and especially don’t eat it. Contaminated meat is bad for you.
     
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    So the fight is still on?? So what's the point in testing??
     
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    the point if the testing is so that the A side fighter can cancel the fight if his opponent pisses dirty
     
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    Using a weight cutter won't give you an advantage in a boxing matchyou simpleton. It only makes the weight losing less of a chore.

    If it can be used as a masking agent (which I never heard of) then it's another thing entirely
     
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    you are such a fucking mongoloid
     
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    "Canelo, you're a drug cheat. Can't bulk like that. Let's fight BoreRat." - Billy Joe Saunders.
     
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    Looks like a combination of weight lifting and eating a lot of steak n eggs to me!
     
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    It seems Clen will also help with oxygen circulation (though it seems to be far from proven that it will help athletic performance). But I wonder if the effects for this are long term or only short term.
     
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    In fact most study that were done on animals showed that Clen actually decrease aerobic performance, or at the very best had no positive effect on it

    The impact of long-term clenbuterol on athletic performance in horses - ScienceDirect
    Effect of Acute Administration of Clenbuterol on Athletic Performance in Horses - ScienceDirect
    Deleterious effects of chronic clenbuterol treatment on endurance and sprint exercise performance in rats. - PubMed - NCBI
    Clenbuterol diminishes aerobic performance in horses. - PubMed - NCBI

    Which, considering the experiene of people I know whom used it, is pretty mcuh what I would have expected. Seems like another ridiculous witch hunt by anti doping agency.
     
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    Yeah, lets just ignore all the scientific litterature on the subject and take the words of an ignorant journalist as gospel
     
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    boxing trainer actually

    if it didnt help then boxers wouldnt take the shit.

    this french fuck stays solidifying his rep as the forum kickball
     
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    Yeah, im the one backing my argument with scientific articles, yet im the one whos talking nonsense. Youre such a retard its not even worthwhile to waste a few seconds on you
     
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    read this out loud 10 times and then laugh and then kill yourself via gunshot with your PhD wrapped around the barrel as a crude silencer
     
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    did you actually read the articles I posted? I know that they are a bit more difficult to comprehend than the comic strip you usually read, but you should give it a try. You might learn something or two, and not sound like a blowhard for once.
     
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    At this point, I just want Triple G to ruin this faggot's career and give him what SHOULD BE his 4th loss.
     
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    Is cutting weight a chore?
     
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    The only thing anybody said in this thread is that clenbuterol helps you lose body fat. Out of the articles posted, the first seems to confirm this (even though it is not scientific, it seems pretty believable) while the others speak about clenbuterol's relation to aerobic performance, which nobody claimed.

    Now, of course a drug that helps you cut weight helps your boxing performance. This is because you can spend more time training power, techniques etc and less time being unconscious in sauna, trying to lose the last pound. Since you don't have to spend time losing this extra weight, you can even build up your stamina, even though clenbuterol itself doesn't have an effect in it. This really doesn't seem too complicated.

    Another thing altogether is that clenbuterol might not be the most effective drug out there but the intention behind using it seems clear
     
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