Canelo tests positive for clenbuterol

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  1. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    if you think clen is the best pharma money can buy, you're even more of an idiot than I thought you were (which is saying something).

    You're comletely clueless on the subject yet insist on debating it.
     
  2. cdogg187

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    I read them and they don't seem to support your position (which has at various times been 1. There's no advantage, 2. There's an advantage but not in terms of physical performance [this is dumb of course because this isn't a fucking vacuum, cutting weight is only one aspect of training for a fight] , even 3. There's a DISadvantage) ... you don't even have a clear position other than everybody else is a huge retard and you are incredibly smart
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    So if you are able to train while the other guy has to concentrate on losing weight, you get no edge what so ever?

    This is like saying steroids won't help you, they will only allow you to train harder
     
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    You read English as awkwardly as you speak it
     
  5. cdogg187

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    Precisely

    Prepared to be called an idiot homosexual jingoist undergraduate by our resident intellectual heavyweight
     
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  6. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Training on techniques and losing weight are most of the time done together. (or you lose weoght while training your cardio) They are not (or very rarely) completely dissimilar as you try to falsely imply.



    Steroid not only allow you to train harder, they'll make you stronger and more resistant, even if you train the same amount of time.

    Another swing and a miss from you
     
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  7. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Lol, fuck off you obvioulsy didn't read them.

    You're so easily confused. My initial position was that a) yes clen will help you cut weight, but it is not a ped, cause it won't gives you an advantage comes fight night, and b) further research (contrarly to you, I tend to read about things I argue about) confirmed that not only clen doesnt gives an advantage, it probably hinder performance
     
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    Of course they are not completely dissimilar. So are you saying that if he tried to only cheat a little bit, perhaps just to avoid weakening himself right under the fight, it is OK?
     
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    The fight is in 2 months. Clen would have no effect on him doing weight so far away, cause the body becomes immune to it after a few weeks
     
  10. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    And again, I'm perfectly aware that Canelo might have used them cause he thought it would give him an advantage. But if he did so, he made a real poor choice
     
  11. cdogg187

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    You're all over the place, as I stated

    You have 3 distinct opinions in this thread alone

    There's probably articles shading towards all three out there

    "doesn't make a difference"
    "Only makes a small difference"
    "Actually hinders you" (advantage GGG)

    All in one thread
     
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  12. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Im actually amazed that you managed to survived that long while being unable to comprehend the simplest of things.

    A real living proof of the decline of the american educational system. All nuances in an argument must be removed cause it cause too much confusion
     
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    1- that's an unfunny version of stuff I say to Panchy and Doub

    2- this doesn't sound as pithy as you think it does
     
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    Regardless of how it impacts on his effectiveness, there's no doubt he's using it to improve his performance...which makes him a cheating ginger cunt (says father of two ginger c...hildren)
     
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    Yeah but it not might help like a super lot and stuff so therefore it's fine.
     
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    This is proofs that Manitoba educationals systems is decline
     
  17. Irish

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    this is pretty fucking disappointing to say the least.

    Look at the WBA, fucking sucking up to the guy.

    I bet the B sample comes back negative for like everything including urine and blood.

    "We tested the B sample and found there was no B sample. Fights on"-
     
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    Regarding the semantics of the issue, if I believe that a bucket of mashed carrots will assist me in winning the 100m footrace at the Olympics, and the rules say "No mashed carrots" and I eat them and run and win, then whether the shit played any part or not is irrelevant. The rules said no clenbuterol. He took clebuterol. He says it was in his tacos. I say it was in the pills he was popping.

    Truth of the matter is he took a beating vs GGG first time, knew he lost, was scared of being fucked on his own National Holiday and felt he needed a little "something".

    He broke the rules.
     
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    IF the rules say "No Coffee" then it's all a bit moot.

    I don't care if Clenbuterol was actively going to HINDER Canelo, the rules forbid it.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    If you think that the small amount of clen canelo had in his system two months away from the fight, would give him any advantage comes fight night, then you're an imbecile plain and simple. But hey, you're in good company among your fellow fightbeat posters
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I kind of agree with you on this, but having clen on the banned list substance is ridiculous to say the least.

    Let's not forget that for these jokers, smoking weed warrant a disqualificaton
     
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    That may well be the case, but golfers are obliged to mark their card and if they don't, the get DQ'd

    The rules are the rules.

    Clen is not a steroid but it's a prohibited substance and that means you don't take it.
     
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    Nobody here is claiming it would give me some massive advantage on fight night fuckwad, let alone me. It's a banned substance, and he tested positive for it. Why the fuck was he taking it if had not advantage? Once again NOBODY is claiming that clenbuterol is some kind of miracle enhancement PED. Yet here you are once a fucken again arguing shit and posting how stupid everybody else is.

    Everyone is stupid but the guy who got a PHD in liberal arts from a vending machine.
     
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    The rules are stupids and so is you angol saxon bigot homosexual without gender studies degree.
     
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    You were implying that that it was giving him a slight advantage in your previous post you dimwit. As is said before,
    if you think that the small amount of clen canelo had in his system two months away from the fight, would give him any advantage comes fight night, then you're an imbecile plain and simple.

    And as for why he had it in his body, the meat contamination excuse make sense this time, since the levels were abyssimals, and there's no reason to use such low level so far away from a fight (and I don't usually gives the benefice of the doubt to athlete that get caught pissing hot).

    And what's the deal with the liberal arts thing? I know it would fit your little reactionnary agenda, but I never studied in a liberal art program
     
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    What school did you go to?
     
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    No, you're the imbecile. If something gives you no advantage AND it's against the rules why the fuck do you take it in the first place? With so much at stake if they banned taking Rolaids for indigestion every athlete would avoid it and not even question why it's on a banned substance list.
     
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    Well for a first, someone might take it cause they think it would give him an advantage. Even though it is not the case (as was shown by the multiple articles I posted, but were too intellectually limited to read). And as I said before, the meat contamination might make sense in that case.
     
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    this cretin has not considered that alvarez's camp timed things poorly and the shit wasnt all out of his system by the time the testing began?

    :D@ the small amount in his system.
     
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    Of course I considered it you troglodyte. I've stated numerous time that I don't dismiss the possiblity that Canelo willingly used it (but as I've came to realise, you and the 2 3 other fightbeat barrell scrappers either don't read anything, or are getting confused by any post that contains more than a sentence). But, as I said before, using clean more than 2 months away from a fight won't gives you any advantage comes fight night.

    And whaT's funny about saying it's a small amount? I guess that a simple mind gets easily amused
     
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