Canelo tests positive for clenbuterol

then

 

The clen may have been used to mask something else, of course.

 

where are you going with that?

 

is it that hard to follow, you feeble minded frog?

without the dope nery couldnt even make weight. yet the shit doesnt help right?

 

I've heard this a few times, but WADA doesn't list clen as a masking agent

 

who the fuck said that Clen doesn't help cutting weight??? It's the first fucking thing I said in this thread. God you're an imbecile.

Utterly useless to even try to have a discussion with you

 

it helped nery WIN a title. without it he could have never won a title. you are challenging panchy for the dumbest cunt here

 

But it doesn't help on fight night unless you count the fight.

 

yeah the fact that he had a much easier time the second time around (when he didn't get caught with drugs) really proves that clen is a hell of a PED (yeah I know he was over the weight limit).

 

who cares about making weight! that shit doesnt matter.

 

Again, where did I say clen wasn't a weight cutter? If you want to attack my argument, at least read it first

And your example is a terrible one, since Nery was caught using clen 2 week before the fight, while in canelo case, it's more than 2 month before the fight. And clen stops working after a few weeks of use.

 

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Screamin A Smith is a cancer, as is ESPN in general.

 

They're really selling this contaminated meat argument and the Canelo groupies out there are all too eager to use that lame defense.

 

Tainted steroids imo. I think his real steroids were tainted with these steroids, and he only used a masking agent for his real steroids.

Golovkin - unsurprisingly - is prepared to fight Juicenelo anyway, like real man.

 

Jesus, you're just a dipshit, PED apologist. It only helps you lose weight. That has no effect on your performance as a boxer!!
What a stupid fucking thing to say. You don't think the weight cut is an important part of how a boxer performs? That's moronic.

Then you point to horse studies over Victor Conte as authoritative? The drug is banned because it provides an unfair advantage to the user. That's called cheating. In a sport where you can kill someone, only fucking idiots will say let them cheat away.

Anabolic Clenbuterol Effects
When it first hit the shelves, one of the primary Clenbuterol effects touted was immense anabolic power; after all, it had proved to be fairly anabolic in rats. While rats grew like a weed, it does not appear to have this effect in humans; it is however slightly anabolic, but it's nothing to write home about. You're not going to gain an inch on your biceps due to Clen supplementation; you're not going to see your bench or squat go up 50bs just because of Clen; however, we can't end the discussion there. While Clenbuterol may not be very anabolic, and we assure you, it's not, it still carries a slight anabolic nature, and even though slight this promotes a greater overall metabolic rate. What does this tell us; it tells us of all the Clenbuterol effects, fat-loss is primary.

Primary yet Bonus Clenbuterol Effects
Clenbuterol Hydrochloride in its official name was originally designed to treat breathing disorders such as chronic asthma, but it would quickly become more popular as a thermogenic despite its original intent. However, this original intent, while very useful to those who suffer from asthma, it can also be extremely useful to performance enhancing athletes; especially those who participate in heavy cardiovascular activity. Runners, cyclist and any other endurance athletes regularly supplement with Clen for its ability to improve breathing; after all, for such individuals how well they breathe is the end all be all.

 

you fucking mongoloid. Did you read any of the scientific articles I posted?? The effect of clen are pretty much minimal, except for weight cutting, and it is time-limited, so taking such a small amounts so far away from the fight won't do shit. And it was NEVER proven to help cardiovascular activity, quite the contrary (and even if it did, the effect would be long gone come fight night).

and no, you ignoramus, a lot of drugs are banned even though they give no fucking advantage (weed for example). Clen could be useful for a boxer for weight cutting, but he would have to take it a lot closer to the weight in, and in much higher quantityé

I swear people most people on this site are total idiots. Always talking about things they don't know shit about (how many of the clowns arguing with me actually knew of clenbuterol before a few days ago?) If clenelo used clen in order to cheat (in such a small quantity and so far from the fight) when there is much much better choices out there, he's as much as a dumb fuck as you are. Which is quite a feat, we'll all agree

 

Yeah, clen is such a difference maker

Clenbuterol Impairs Muscle Quality and is Potentially Dangerous
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To the Editor:
In their study, Kamalakkannan et al1 investigated the effect of an anabolic agent on muscle strength and exercise capacity in patients with chronic heart failure (CHF). Their investigation of clenbuterol is of great interest and complements an earlier study by Harrington et al,2 who used salbutamol in the treatment of CHF and showed a potential negative effect of this β2-agonist. Harrington et al found that salbutamol failed to improve exercise capacity and increased the risk of arrhythmia, and therefore they proposed a trial with clenbuterol as a more potent anabolic agent.

Nevertheless, the results presented by Kamalakkannan et al leave more questions unanswered. The exercise capacity (peakVo2) did not increase after clenbuterol, and if data are analyzed in detail, one must assume a weakening of muscle as the net effect. This can be derived from their data showing a gain in lean mass in the clenbuterol-treated patients (26.1 ± 5.1 to 27.1 ± 5.1 kg) while peakVo2 remained unchanged (13.8 ± 4.5 to 13.9 ± 4.3 ml/kg/min), and hence the proportion of oxygen per kilogram lean mass, which is a indicator of muscle quality, could be calculated as approximately 47.1 ml/kglean/min pre-clenbuterol and 45.6 ml/kglean/min post-clenbuterol. Because oxygen supply by heart and lungs remained constant, as indicated by the unchanged ejection fraction on echocardiography and by the unchanged peakVo2, the decline in peakVo2/lean mass illustrates a worsening of muscle quality despite an increase in absolute muscle force. This impaired muscle quality may result from insufficient muscle perfusion, low mitochondrial content, endothelial dysfunction or from a shift to fast-twitch fibers.

Thus, even the “positive” anabolic effects of clenbuterol must be interpreted with caution, and must be placed in context with the severe adverse effects. The increase in heart rate in 1 patient of their study was covered only by an increase in metopro dose, another patient developed a ventricular tachycardia, and 60% of patients on clenbuterol had muscle cramps and tremors. This is in line with the typical side effects known from the literature and from the criticisms presented by the ESC.3

In conclusion, the study by Kamalakkannan et al was very informative, but the result is to the disadvantage of clenbuterol and should give further evidence to refuse the use of β2-agonists in CHF.

 

Unfortunately, there seems to be no study on thhe effect of clen on ginger mexican boxers. So we have to do with the studies that were made with other subjects (which pretty much all show that clen doesn't help)

Again, I've heard the masking agent thing a few times, but WADA doesn't lit it as one, so I wonder if it's true (if you have a credible source, please share)

 

And just to make my point clearer, i would bet a lot of money on canelo not being clean, he's probably on much more potent things than clen