I’m torn on Wilder vs Ortiz

Hahaha, Jackson - Graham right?

That was classic.

 

The funniest thing about Jackson-Graham is that the ref actually bothered counting the full 10, when everybody could see that Graham was sleeping on another planet. That happened a lot back in the day... refs would go through the entire 10 count even when a guy was out cold.

That's the one thing that has improved about boxing refereeing nowadays.... if it's EXTREMELY OBVIOUS that a guy ain't getting up, the ref will immediately wave it off.

In 2018, Jackson-Graham would have been waived off the moment Graham hit the mat.

Foster-Quarry is another example I can think of where a 10 count wasn't necessary.

 

That's actually a good point. I've never given it much thought, but thinking about it you're right - in old fights you often see a ref counting all the way to 10 when a fighter is out cold, half dead - it's comical actually

 

I believe Bob Foster said something like "I liked Mike, I didn't wanna hurt him. I told him to keep moving but he didn't listen."

 

i prefer a complete 10 count for every KO. just to be on the safe side that the sleeping fighter wont wake up and rise to his feet

 

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I'll give you that one. very clever. It could happen. But I don't see Joshua getting KTFO with one punch.

 

That, or a no-shake right after the fight has been stopped

 

I could, being honest, and I think Joshua's quality. Wilder is just that hard-hitting.

 

If i had knew that showing wlad cowardice would have caused you so much mental anguish, i would have abstained. Youre having as bad a meltdown as irish had when the giant coward humiliated himself agains fury

 

Eddie Hearn says that Joshua-Wilder is "probably" next after the Parker fight. Let's hope he means it. It's not smart to let a heavyweight fight marinate, because a KO upset loss is ALWAYS possible with these guys.

Make the fight for the fall. It'll be in Vegas. Joshua will rightfully get a higher purse. It'll be a HUGE fight.

 

vegas doesnt make much sense. Im sure 20k brits will travel for it, but it would still have a better gate in london

 

Word. It has to happen next.

 

Vegas makes more sense because the goal is to make AJ a global superstar, and he isn't yet. He's a megastar in the UK, but in the US, casuals still don't know him.

If he KO's Wilder in Vegas, he's now a US superstar and a UK megastar.

 

I agree. A fight of this magnitude (because it would be a fight to unify the heavyweight division featuring two undefeated guys with a 99% KO ratio between them) MUST happen in the Mecca of boxing.

 

Don't underestimate the star power this fight will attract in Vegas, that's also a big factor.

Theres gonna be a shitload of Hollywood and sports A-listers at this fight if it's in Vegas.

You won't see that in London.

 

Then there would be more A-listers if they held the fight at the Los Angeles Chargers stadium seeing as it's 14 miles south from the Staples Center

 

Les Ferdinand might attend if it's in London.

 

I think A listers have enough money to get themselves from LA to Vegas for a fight like this.

 

Who the fuck is Jermaine?

 

Wilder, greatest heavyweight of all time!

I've been with him since the Harrison fight.