Both big punchers. Both extremely flawed. Only thing certain is that it's not going the distance. What gives?
Could go either way obviously but I expect Wilder to get Morrison out of there first for a couple of reasons: Wilder has shown that he can survive and recover. When Morrison was hurt he was pretty much done! Peep Morrison vs Bentt for example. Wilder has the reach to get to the target first. Now, to offset that, Morrison has beaten ruddock and that’s more impressive than even wilder beating Ortiz. Still you can argue that ruddock was damaged goods by that point whereas Ortiz was undefeated.
The Ruddock fight shits on your claim that once tommy was hurt, he was done. You probably never saw it
I'm going with Tommy. Morrison was a faster starter, and his technique was so much better than Bum Squad's that I think he lands his hook before Wilder can set up the haymaker right. Ortiz is a pretty big puncher, but honestly, he had nothing on Tommy in terms of power. Morrison in 3.
For all the shit Tommy gets about his chin (Which admittedly wasn't good), I'm not really convinced about Wilder's chin. He survived Ortiz's onslaught but he's been hurt before by absolute bums. I'm not at all convinced he can take Tommy's left hook.
I don't think he can take Morrison's left hook either but I don't see Morrison taking his right hand well at all. So it's down to who lands first and who is the better finisher (and better survivor).
I saw it...and sure that goes against what I said. But the enduring image to me of Morrison were his fights with Mercer and Bentt. He was just short circuited and couldn't recover. What would happen if Wilder dropped the bomb on him...knowing Wilder's manic blood-lusted mayhem finishing?
See, I think that's what might actually favor Tommy. Wilder likes to go in wide open and all out. A hurt Moorison could catch him coming in with that left hook. I think Mercer KO's Wilder too.
I don’t see Mercer stopping wilder. Mercer reallly didn’t hit all that hard. Ortiz has more power than Mercer did and Is a much better boxer. If wilder hurt Morrison and then went in for the kill there’s nothing in morrisons history to suggest that he’d catch wilder coming in. Morrison would just be vulnerable and wilder would tear his head off
Please tell us how you recon that Ortiz has more power than Mercer. Ortiz has never brutally stopped any elite opponents to date to show us any kind of significant power. I guarantee you that if Mercer had Wilder in the trouble that Ortiz did, he would have finished him. Ortiz power is overrated.
Mercer had mediocre power. He won on toughness and persistence. He couldn't stop Jesse Ferguson or an ancient Larry Holmes. Ortiz definitely hits harder.
I don't think Mercer was some bomber but he was reasonably heavy handed I don't see much evidence Ortiz is some big puncher
Bryant Jennings is nothing special but he still seems to be the most impressive stoppage victim between the two. Morrison was known as soft-chinned and Mercer took him out with a 30-punch barrage, and Ray knocked out Damiani by missing a punch. Apart from that, I can't remember even a semi-credible opponents that he stopped
Morrison had never been down prior to Mercer And again nobody is saying Mercer was a real big puncher
nonsense .Who stops larry?? Prime prime prime Tyson took 6 rounds of ferocious offense to stop Jessie. Mercer most definitely PROVED to hit harder than Ortiz.
Mercer didn't prove shit. He punched no harder than Evander Holyfield and if anything I think Holyfield had the edge in power. Ortiz is a puncher...not an elite puncher but definitely more of a puncher than Mercer.
Long before he faced Wilder it was known that he was a decent puncher. Mercer was just a tough aggressive guy and not a puncher by any stretch. This all started because someone claims that mercer would have stopped Wilder. I don't see how the guy that couldn't even wobble an OLD Larry Holmes would stop young undefeated 6'7" Wilder.
well the thing is Wilder's chin is still a question mark and so is Ortiz's power. So that fight proved nothing in my eyes since you can't answer unknown with unknown. I don't believe Mercer was a big puncher. I would say slightly above average but he proved that in battle . Ortiz proved nothing so far.
Mercer could barely HIT Larry Holmes, how's he supposed to wobble him? Anyway, Ortiz being a big puncher or even a just a bigger puncher than Ray Mercer is baseless The guy's opponents have either been ancient or palookas and he himself is a typical heavyweight palooka This is just sly hyping the heavyweight division like suddenly the fighters are good because wald pussy is gone and a couple of black dudes are at the forefront
You are seriously overhyping Wilder based on him barely getting by a fat, old Ortiz who never has really proven himself in the first place.
Must agree with Sly that Ortiz is a bigger puncher than Mercer. The way he was dropping Jennings with every punches he landed, while wald pussy couldn't even hurt him showed he had great power. Now, I'm not saying mercer couldn't ko Wilder either. He sure could
I prefer a winging right hand over a winging hook so I'd pick Wilder but not with a lot of confidence
I tend to lean towards Wilder as I think he would land something big with his right and stop Tommy, but Morrison being done when was hurt is not true. Morrison had a lot of heart and rallied numerous times. His chin was so poor that he was hurt numerous times. He had his jaw broken and also broke his hand against Hipp and came back to stop him. He was down twice against Carl Williams and stopped him. He was getting his ass handed to him by Yuri Vaulin and was rocked before rallying to stop him. He was rocked by a journeyman named Terry Anderson before coming back to stop him to the body, and I think Ross Purrity dropped Morrison twice and then Morrison was able to salvage a draw. Morrison had many weaknesses, but rallying after being dropped or rocked wasn’t one of them.
