the Leonard that fought Lalonde, Hearns 2 and Duran 3 vs The Roy that fought Toney. How badly does Leonard get his cherry picking ass whupped ?
I think Jones would beat the crap out of the Lalonde Leonard. Dundee would throw the towel in at around round 8
In FEWER Fights, Ray Leonard Has a BETTER Resume... Yet You, a Floyd Fan, Label him a 'Cherry Picker'???...Pretty Fucking INSANE, Bruh... REED
Oh I see. I wasn't being serious. I figured people would see that as being a bit of fun since it's obvious that Leonard has one of the best resumes in history. I guess I'll have to spell things out next time. At age 30 after an illustrious career and in his comeback phase he earned the right to have a couple easy matches.
For this matchup, the Leonard magic just doesn't matter... his age makes this a complete mismatch because Roy was too young, strong and waaaay too fast
ok let's hear it What's the thread really about? Roundabout age fallacy argument for some other fighter not yet named in the thread? Archie Moore was a spry youngster at 33 Pipino Cuevas, Wilfred Benitez, Lionel Rose, Mel Taylor were corpses at 33 Bernard Hopkins was at his peak at 33
I mean, I was NEVER going to bring up the following, but since you guys have alluded to it without any prompting from me I've made the following observation: Between ages 32 and 40 (at an age range when Leonard would be forgiven for taking relatively easy fights and losing badly to other guys)...Floyd Mayweather fought and beat in chronological order: Juan Manuel Marquez, Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz, Miguel Cotto, Robert Guerrero, Canelo Alvarez, Marco Maidana Twice, Manny Pacquiao among others. Now perhaps Floyd had benefitted from eating ambrosia and drinking Nectar gifted to him from the gods, allowing him unnatural longevity of prime, or he was simply unfairly criticized for that portion of his career even though he remained successful at a point when his naturally physical abilities were declining just as what happens with every fighter. Perhaps he was just so good in his prime that even when he was 90%, 80% and 70% of his previously best....he was still superior to the competition he faced and can be excused for perhaps missing a couple of supposed "hard fights". But we digress, as this was never my intention when starting this topic about the Leonard vs Jones, arguably the two fastest and slickest ever guys at 168lbs
I knew it Between the ages of 17 and 21, Pipino Cuevas won the welterweight title by utterly annihilating Angel Espada and proceeded to defend it 11 times, KOing 10 challengers in dominant fashion ... between 32 and 40 he was a happily retired fighter who had been completely shot years earlier In a sport where one gets hit in the head repeatedly and there are a million variables in styles, competition, the unique biology of one's brain, age goes out the window... aging patterns are all over the map
In some ways it would resemble Norris-Leonard but worse. Ray is gutsy and guile but doesn't make the distance.
I love SRL.. one of my all time fav but that version at 168 would get WHUPPED Roy was just a bigger guy and CRAZY at that time he fought Toney also.. Floyd has the cars
