Joshua - Wilder latest: "Bizarre" says Hearn

So what do you attribute Joshua’s high KO% to? Finishing ability? Workrate? Now obviously I know that KO % doesn’t by itself prove power but it’s still a decent indicator. I think Dillion Whyte KO proves Joshua’s power and whyte was knocked out cold and he was a much better fighter than anyone Bruno had knocked out.

 

Joshua has been fighting absolute stiffs. They are being stopped because they are hideously overmatched garbage. And they are almost all ref stoppages. As he stepped up his comp the quick stoppages soon dried up. The Wald stoppage was legit, but even then he was still on his feet when the ref stepped in. The Takam stoppage was absolutely corrupt. He never had Parker in trouble for even a second.

KO% isn't necessarily indicative of punching power. Doesn't Vitali have something like a 90% KO record even though he spent most of his career throwing arm punches.

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Parker fought to survive and prior to that had never left his feet. Dem Kiwis seem to have cast iron jaws.

I agree that KO% isn’t a clear cut indicator of power...it’s just suggestive. Mosley and Vargas are other ones to add to the mix to show this.

I do think that Joshua would have knocked out all of the fellas Bruno knocked out and was capable of knocking out at least two of the guys Bruno couldn’t.

Still, I’m not saying Joshua punched harder than Bruno, I just think they have equivalent power.

 

Good ole MTF..
I Gotta agree with you here..

Bruno maybe had great knockouts vs BUMS but AJ does't even have that
I'm glad after all these years.. we agree AJ is a big Muscle bound euro bum robot

 

Bruno was devastating vs 2 bit bums

AJ needs refs to stop the bums

 

Sly hates Bruno because Bruno, Sly feels, wasn't Mandingo enough.

It's ironic. Very ironic.

 

Supposedly we're getting closer to both sides reaching a deal for the fall. As I suspected, most likely, it's gonna end up in Vegas.

If so, I commend both sides and fighters. Finally a super fight that occurs at the RIGHT TIME.

 

God Smith was a horrible joke of a heavyweight.

 

Both guys stepping up it seems. This is what boxing needs after the Canelo fiasco, and Thurman being “injured” preventing him from unifying.

I got AJ winning it, but Wilder is very live with his power. One major mistake from AJ and it could spell good night.

 

Yeah Wilder is live...VERY live, but Joshua should win. Joshua is best to try to get Wilder out of there early because Wilder carries his power late and getting hit with those bombs late in the fight is far more damaging. For a huge puncher, Wilder isn't crazy aggressive. He's more of a wait and pounce type puncher. In some ways that's more dangerous. My point though is, unlike most punchers, Wilder isn't the type that you try to outbox early, stay out of trouble and then try to catch him late. No, he's not a Nigel Benn, George Foreman type that you can outlast after weathering the early storm. There IS no storm with Wilder, just random lightening strikes out of the calm. So best thing to do is force the firefight early because his punches are easier to take in the early rounds than they are in the later rounds. Definitely a somewhat counterintuitive strategy against a big puncher.

 

Wilder will ko aj stiff ass. Aj is a bit of an eurobum

 

That's a good breakdown

 

Joshua’s best bet is to keep Wilder in front of him and basically kick his ass by being better until the ref stops it. Questions are how easy does he keep Wilder in front of him and does he get ktfo before he gets the stoppage.

 

I’m actually not sure Joshua wants it. I think Joshua is content making millions for passively KOing bums while he bangs out chicks with bad teeth and gets pretty good star treatment being England’s boxing star. A loss could seriously slow down his gravy train.

I’m tired of boxers hiding behind promoters and managers when it comes to big fights. Promoters and managers work for the fighter, not the other way around, so if they don’t want to make the fight the fighter wants, the fighter should fire them.

Barring that, I have to assume by not taking the fight, that the fighter either agrees with his team for whatever reason or he’s flat out afraid.

 

i don't care how much I have hated on "windmill wilder" over the years.. been surprised he has been as successful has he has.. been shocked even.. he has looked TERRIBLE at times.. sloppy, wild..
all that.. and I just HOPE HOPE HOPE he STRETECHS AJ! when I look at AJ.. i just really really really want to see him STRETCHED on the canvas.. mainly cuz he is a EURO BUM

 

Bruno isn’t the issue here, and I don’t get why his similarities to Joshua have been debated this strong and long. Joshua’s power also isn’t the issue, his aggression is. If you put a guy in there with half Joshua’s power but twice his aggression I guarantee the one with less power would score more knockouts.

We have thankfully just concluded the Wlad-carry-a-guy era where we had to watch a guy with very good power and skill pitty pat his way to wins. Joshua was set to become more of the same, but thank goodness for Wilder who although less skilled has the kind of aggression that could give him the much bigger edge if they ever face up.

Also, I think you guys haven’t noticed, but Sly seems to have planted his flag on AJ hill. It’s his new Floyd Mayweather, so expect a lot of Joshua bias and hyperbole that could and already has been mistaken for trolling.

 

Exactly. The promoter excuse is tired as hell.

 

I think Joshua is interested in the fight but he’s not in a hurry to make the fight. If it comes, it comes. He probably sees Wilder is a threat and is acting accordingly.

The sooner the better with this fight. Both are vulnerable. And could get beat on any given night. Enough with waiting. Make it now.

 

Lawd have mercy! I was a backer of Mayweather before he even became mainstream....waaay back when he was beating guys like Manfreddy and Emmanuel Burton (Augustus). I think his entire career has proven the point.

As for AJ, I'm not sold yet, but I do think he's the best heavyweight at the moment. But he's not my "new Mayweather". Far from it.

I rate the following fighters over AJ

GGG
Canelo
Lomachenko
Crawford
Spence
Garcia

 

By saying he’s your new Mayweather I wasn’t saying that you think he’s the best, I was saying that he’s your current favorite fighter. Am I correct about that?

 

AJ says it's just the "technical jargon" of the contact being hashed out at this point. Says he's going to "fuck Wilder up real bad".

 

Except he's not.

 

Either guy could “fuck up” the other. Both are vulnerable. Both have questionable chins.

 

I could see Wilder fucking up AJ, I’d be shocked if AJ fucked up Wilder. There styles are too different. Due to Wilder’s lack of refined skill he pretty much has to go in there and try to take a guy’s head off. AJ on the other hand tends to be content to play it safe and focus on boxing skill.

He’d likely get the win on points and the only way I could see AJ fucking up Wilder is by being forced to fight aggressively in response to Wilder’s aggression.

The other possibility is AJ fucking Wilder up by totally outclassing him with skill and countering, but let’s be honest, the difference in their skill levels isn’t THAT dramatic.

 

Still anybody's fight, and I have yet to make an OFFICIAL prediction... but when I do make an official prediction, it's gonna most likely be Wilder by KO.

 

They had Joshua at the NBA's Western Conference Finals in Oakland and Reggie Miller called him Anthony Johnson

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No. I have no clear favourite right now. If anything GGG is my favourite

 

AJ can totally fuck Wilder up, are you kidding me? Wilder is the more patient one. Wilder waits and then strikes like a cobra. Once has had you hurt then he’s all over you like a hyena. AJ, on the other hand, typically brings to fight to his opponent right away, throwing hard leather and applying pressure. We have the impression of wilder being aggressive because his finishing is what stick in our minds (and for good reason) but he’s a patient fighter that waits for openings. Anyway look at what Ortiz was doing to him, AJ can do that and much worse.

 

Miller can barely call basketball correctly. Can't expect him to know boxing.

 

Sly I hafta admit, I thought the exactly same thing - that for whatever reason you do seem to have latched onto Joshua something fierce, like he's your new Floyd