WBA to Joshua: ¨Sign to fight Povetkin...

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  1. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    Eddie Hearns’ Done Joshua a Complete DISSERVICE Throughout These Negotiations. Especially As it Pertains to AMERICAN Audiences.

    Nearly Impossible for REED to Speak Positively of AJ’s Worth as a Combatant (To Casual American Fight Fans) After Sitting on the Sidelines im Silence, as his Promoter Made a MOCKERY Of his Name.

    Repeatedly.

    And as REED’s Stated On Other Threads, There’s a Chance Joshua-Wilder NEVER Happens Now.

    Povetkin’s a DANGEROUS Ass Mandatory.







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    If Joshua can’t beat povetkin then he has no business getting in there with wilder. Povetkin is no where near as dangerous as wilder. I think Joshua deals with povetkin surprisingly easily

    But if the Joshua Wilder fight doesn’t come off Hearn will be the devil
     
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    Joshua-Povetkin’s a 60-40 Fight in Terms of Win Probability, In Joshua’s Favor.

    REED Certainly Wouldn’t Risk The Wilder PayDay On Odds Like THAT!








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    Joshua-Wilder ain't happening no time soon. Spence-Crawford ain't happening no time soon. Loma-Garcia ain't happening no time soon.

    Gotta love boxing...
     
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    And You Can Blame Eddie Hearn, Bob Arum and Bob Arum For That...

    Yet, Al Haymon STILL Gets Portrayed as the Bad Guy By Promoters...







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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Eddie Hearn is a disgusting little fucking weasel.

    Until old man Arum is an important figure in boxing history, who has contributed many great fights to the sport.

    Who the fuck is Eddie and what has he done?
     
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    His Father, Barry, is a Legendary UK Promoter.






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    I gotta disagree here. Nothing tells us that Wilder is more dangerous then Povetkin. Povetkin has beaten many better fighters than Wilder has. More convincingly as well.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Wilder is also an upset waiting to happen.

    And yes, Hearn has made AJ look rea bad here and he either doesn’t care or doesn’t appear to realize it.
     
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    povetkin beat ortiz a few times before he was 100 years old
     
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    Wilder was Looking at Facing Breazeale in the Interim, Last REED Heard...

    No Threat of an Upset There...

    agREED w/the Sentiment of Your Post Though...







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    wilder should already be in jail for what he did to breazeale. he's a scumbag
     
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    Barry Hearn makes Eddie look like the Dalai Lama. Barry Hearn was the cunt of all cunts.
     
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    The “he’s beaten better fighters than the other” isn’t the be all and end all of determining which fighter is more dangerous. That logic is overused on this forum. Wilder is tall, fast, rangy and has ludicrous power...plus he carries it late. Povetkin isn’t more dangerous
     
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    What Had Happened?





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    Hard to Imagine, but You'd Know Better than REED...

    Who was Daddy Hearns' Biggest Name? Bruno? Biggest Fight?







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    attacked him and his camp/family in the fight hotel with about 30 goons after they fought on the same card in alabama.
     
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    Hearn Sr was Eubanks promoter, I seem to recall. Got a fair few favourable decisions for his man back in the day, including the disgraceful decision in the first Watson fight, the more debatable (but still plainly wrong) draw in Benn -Eubanks 2. I think, at various stages, he was also promoter to Bruno, Benn, Hamed (I think?) and a few others. In the early to mid 1990's, he, Werren and to a lesser extent Kellie Maloney :)D) basically ran UK boxing. Hearns deal to take his fighters over to Sky Sports essentially created the foundation for Sky's monopoly of UK boxing today. He handed over his boxing empire to his odious little creep of a son to free his hand so that he could concentrate on finish off ruining professional darts, which he now essentially milks for millions of pounds a year at no risk whatsoever to his own pocket, and running professional snooker, which he likewise milks for millions.

    Hearn Sr. is a very horrible cunt. His son, as I have said previously, is very much cut from the same cloth.

    MTF
     
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    Wilder shows all of these attributes against sub standard opposition. You are drawing conclusions.
     
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    Luis Ortiz WAS NOT "Sub-Standard Opposition"...







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    That's Shitty...

    Fight's Over, Ya'll Got Paid...Go Spend Some Money and Have Fun...Playful Post-Fight Shit Talking @ Most...There's Definitely a Time to SELL Yourself in this Business, but NOT @ the Hotel When You've Already Fought and Been Compensated...








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    True, but he is old and Wilder was nearly stopped himself in that fight.
     
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    Hearn's Intro to Most American Boxing Fans was the Jacobs-Big Baby Miller Doubleheader Earlier This Year...Decent Enough Card...

    Hearn Dangled the Idea of Joshua's American Debut in July, vs. Big Baby, Which REED Thinks Would've Been a PERFECT Move for Joshua. Obviously that's NOT Happening Now and in Fairness, it Died Off Rather Quickly...

    Then Came the 12.5mil (or Whatever) Flat Fee, Take it or Leave it "Offer" to Wilder, the Equivalent of Showing Up to a Dick Measuring Contest, Whipping Yours Out 1st and Finishing a Distant Last...Individually, Shelly Finkel and Al Haymon have FORGOTTEN More about Business than Hearn Will Ever Know...Considering Those 2 Comprise "Team Wilder" on the Negotiating Side, it's APPALLING Hearn Went There, Strategically...

    Which is Why Team Wilder Countered w/an Offer of 50mil...Sadly, It Seems Clear Hearn Not Only Tells Joshua When to FIGHT, but When to SPEAK...Joshua SPOKE "50mil" Into Existence and has Basically Been Church Mouse SILENT Ever Since...

    Being WHO they Are, Finkel and Haymon Came Up w/a Legit Offer, Guaranteeing Joshua 50 Million Dollars, Minimum...After Questioning the Legitimacy of the Offer AND Being Proven WRONG, Hearn Insisted they Fight in the UK...The Good Thing was, REAL Talks were Now in Motion...

    All this Past Week, Hearn's Been PUBLICLY Bitching about Team Wilder Sitting on a Contract for Several Days, No Response, Allegedly. Hearn Even MANUFACTURED "Pressure" from the WBA to Solidify a Date w/Povetkin….Come to Find Out There was No Response from Team Wilder Because the Offer Sheet Sent by Hearn LACKED the Date and Venue for the Bout...

    This Latest Episode REALLY Speaks to What an Entitled, Silver Spoon Having Elitist Hearn Is...He TRULY Believes he's BETTER Than and SMARTER Than Anyone Else in the Room, Even When That's Clearly NOT the Case...

    And All the While, Joshua Smiles and Flexes on Cue, yet Only SPEAKS When Eddie Hearn Deems it Worthy....




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    Coming into that Bout, Ortiz was the Most AVOIDED of the Current Crop of Heavyweights, Easily...And he FOUGHT Like It vs. Wilder...

    Considering Wilder's FLAWS, Nearly Getting Stopped, Yet WINNING By KO (as Usual) Doesn't Diminish Him @ All, Even Though You're Clearly TRYING to Do Just That...






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    That is pretty much exactly how I see it, too.

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    I’m not diminishing it. It was a good win. Although it is his only good win. Povetkin has numerous good wins. That has to be taken into consideration.
     
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    Don't forget the utterly corrupt Eubank-Dan Sherry situation.
     
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    You have to place a higher priority on Styles here though. Wilder is very tall, slightly taller than even Joshua. He has fast hands and a long reach, More importantly he has legit one punch power and carries that power late. He's also awkward and unpredictable..Povetkin is more of a standard fighter, stylewise. Then Povetkin is 38 to Wilder's 31. In addition to all of this it is of my humble opinion that beating Ortiz is a better win than all of Povetkin's wins.
     

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