MUSIC: the official thread.

But, didn´t you know? It´s all about attitude and being able to ¨mean it, maaaaaannnnn!¨

 

Sit doon magus, you're embarrassing yourself

 

Any of his other stuff any good?

 

I´m not a huge fan of Andrew Gold but his other two big hits you probably know (and which are great tunes so obviously a musical-dolt like Hut*Hut will despise) are:

 

Ooft. Friday night at Partick bowling club, free to members, £2 for guests, 25% drink discount for seniors, entertainment provided by dj magus.

 

Legendary nights.

Almost as good as the ones I experienced in Flares years ago....

 

Onyeabor up yer Friday

 

Ah you thought this was a dance track for a wee second, eh? Fooled ya! Now sit down and listen to us play, we're gonna show you how good we are. Oi! I see you sneaking out to the toilet, sit back down!

 

No solos and a clear, repeated melodic pattern

But played by a really tight band that love music ... so obviously self-indulgent

They should've had a curiously retarded-sounding African guy sing over it and played it like shit

 

"Hey check out this band"

"Have they been playing their instruments longer than 2 months? Have they ever listened to any black American music besides Shabazz Palaces?"

"Uh yeah I guess they've probably been playing a lot longer than that and probably like lots of black music..."

"Pffffffft bunch of bullshit... how am I supposed to spaz out on uppers with all that going on??"

 

for the perusal of amateur musicians who 'get' how tight it is (i.e. hard to play). Ooh the tightness. There's nothing else there. In spirit it's like complicated metal music also only listened to by amateur musicians. Wow, the time signature is crazy. Holy shit. Yeah, I can almost play that bit but honestly it's so hard

 

Wrong ... completely wrong... you simply do not get it

I could easily share a video of this group playing the tune live and a crowd of 1,000 fans literally singing the entire bass line with only the drummer playing and the rest of the group laying out ... unless you believe every person in the crowd is a musician, which is of course obviously nonsensical

This isn't good because it's "hard to play" (Dream Theater is hard to play and also complete garbage, for example... hard to play is meaningless) ... it's good because it is funky, danceable, catchy, fun music

 

"The time signature is crazy"

It's 4/4 for fuck's sake!!

 

I didn't say that time signature was crazy, Clogg. You can read, read it again

 

Ah you were referring to your obscure metal strawman, my bad

"Tight = hard to play" is the problem... that isn't what "Tight" means... The Meters were one of the tightest bands ever, the music they played was very simple, it just sounded fucking great because they played great, they had the feel, they were tight

 

Substitute whatever words you prefer then, I stand by my point.

 

Your point is horseshit

 

It's like that painting of Michelle Obama you defended. If you were a painter whose work nobody gave a shit about, maybe your view on that painting would be different. Clogg, did you ever even try to make it as a musician? Or were you bitter from the very beginning? Was it over for you before it started?

 

No it really isn't but whatevs.

 

What on earth are you on about?

I was in a band that played throughout the tri-state area and Massachusetts for several years ... cut a record, etc ... we "tried to make it", I suppose but that wasn't really at the forefront of my mind... I wasn't doing it in hopes of becoming famous, I just liked to play

 

It absolutely is. It's a critical strawman... you've decided what the motivation of the artist is and then paint your response around that assumption

 

Ive decided what I feel the stylistic raison detre of the music is and illustrated my meaning with an analogy. If there's any strawmanning involved in that you'd have to explain it to me.

The illustration wasn't to draw a direct comparisons between the styles in any sense other than the one I mentioned. It's music 'about' musicianship. It really has no other function: you couldn't soundtrack anything with it, you can't dance to it, it isn't a vehicle for somebody's world view or anything else. It's about musicianship. And if a disproportionate number of the people who listen to it don't fancy themselves as musicians I'll eat my dusty plectrum.

 

None of this is true, though

Vulfpeck have a large following, most of their fans are not musicians... you're basing your opinion there off of one tune that you don't really get anyway