IS KOVALEV IN TROUBLE THIS WEEKEND???...

I don’t think it’s age, I think his confidence was destroyed by Ward.

 

I don't feel I'm being too harsh.

It's not as if I'm saying Kov was a fraud, and writing off his prime.

OF COURSE the Kov who beat Cleverly was way better than the Kov who got rocked by Alvarez.

I'm being objective enough to admit that many of us, myself included, might have overrated him in his prime.

We always wanted to know what would happen if a guy truly fought back against Kov, and unfortunately, evidence does suggest that he lacked the intangibles to match his physical talent.

It's a shame that his resume won't read a W against Ward though. He won the first Ward fight clear as fucking day.

 

Yep, Ward Introduced Kovalev to MORTALITY...Cracked His Code....

It's Tyson-Holyfield, Mosley-Forrest, Roy-Tarver All Over Again...






REED

 

What makes you think the guy confidence was shot? He was walking him down defiantly and got caught with a bomb. He probably was too confident.

I get that some of you like to claim this cause it enables to run under the rug the corruption that surrounded these two fights

 

The confidence to bite down, put it into another gear, and come back from adversity. It happens all the time.

Have you just started watching boxing?

 

Uuuuuuuh, the Fact Kovalev was EXAGGERATING the Effects of LEGIT Low Blows Several Rounds PRIOR to the Fight Ending Round is CLEAR Evidence that his Confidence was WANING...

Ward was HURTING him Downstairs, Kovalev Couldn't Cope w/it, So he Suggested to the Ref the Blows were LOW, Which they WEREN'T Until the Very End...

No Matter How Badly You WANT Andre Ward to Be this SAINTED, PROTECTED American Figure, who Obama and Trump HAD to Keep Undefeated, by Any Means Necessary, that's NOT the Case Bruh...You and REED have Debated this Point to Death and there's NATHAN There from Your Perspective...NATHAN....

Tony Weeks Did a POOR Job of Ref'ing the Fight @ the End, but that DOESN'T Make it a Display of Corruption...

Sorry...







REED

 

Youre an idiot loaded. Even with all the confidence in the world, kovalev wasnt coming back from that first kd. His legs were all gone.

He's a frontunner, but this as more to do with his chin and stamina, than with some mental issues.

 

Or it could be that John David Jackson was right along.

Kovalev got cocky and stopped properly preparing for his fights. You must be an asshole on an executive level when your trainer goes to the opposite camp prior to the fight to offer advice on how to beat you.

 

your argument on this point is beyond ridiculous (andre ward is not a big enough fighter to be protected, ), and we all know you would think otherwise if it wasn't for a certain cosmetic factor.

I agree that Kovalev body language wasn't looking too good, but it wasn't as bad as american fans claims it was.

 

If you think that he is being partial because he is black, just say it. Stop being a pussy.

 

Nah, YOUR Point Has Taken "Ridiculous" to Insurmountable Heights...

REED LIVES in America and Can Speak w/FACTS on How Popular Andre Ward ISN'T....Like REED Said the Other Day, Outside of Oakland and Vegas, Ward Could Walk Down MOST American Streets UNfuckingREGOGNIZED...

Even in BLACK Neighborhoods!...He's NOT Some Beloved, IMPORTANT Entity that Needs to Be Protected, to the Point of Corruption...

There's NATHAN to See Here, Folks...

Not Really Sure What "Cosmetic Factor" You're Referencing, but REED Doesn't Partake in Make-Up Bruh...






REED

 

Ah, Okay...That's What he Meant...

By JOM's Logic, if REED's REALLY Supporting Ward on Some RACIAL Shit, then Surely REED's Posting History VOUCHES for His Ward Fandom, Right???...

Unfortunately for JOM, it Doesn't...







REED

 

Yeah, I don’t think he really pays attention.

 

Never said he was popular, but he was attractive enough for roc nation to build their whole boxing brand around him. They obvioulsy thought he could be an extremely profitable fighter

To think that Roc nation wouldn't care to protect their investment shows either stupidity or partiality. I give you the benefit of the doubt and i'll say it's the latter.

 

roc nation

those dumbfucks over paid ward, cotto, rigondeaux. they werent exactly the shrewdest promoters as far as who they gave money to

all past tense, theyre done in boxing.

 

That seems to be a contributing factor for sure, the internet rumours about ill-discipline and wanting to do it his way only precede the first Ward fight at least. A shame he didnt get the first Ward decision, which he deserved, but its all moot now anyway.

 

Hush up Bieber.

 

Nope...

Roc Nation "Built" Their Boxing Brand Around Miguel Cotto, Dude...LOSING Cotto Was their Death Knell, Signaling the End and By DEFAULT, Andre Ward Became the Biggest Name in their Stable...But Make NO Mistake, the Sand in Roc Nation's Hour Glass was WELL on its' Way to Running Out By the Time of Ward-Kovalev II...

@ NO Point in Ward's Career Has he Demonstrated He Could Be an "Extremely Profitable Fighter"...Sure, he's Made a Good Living for HIMSELF, but No One that's Promoted Him has Profited...The 2 PPV's He Headlined Sold 165,000 and 125-130,000 Apiece...Thing is, a Fight Needs to Draw 200,000 Buys MINIMUM, just to Break Even...

Roc Nation WASN'T a Profitable Enough Entity to COERCE the Vegas Boxing Commission Into Corruption on Ward's Behalf, Nor Was Ward Generating the Type of Money to Make it WORTH the Commission's or Gambler's Investment...

If You Suggested the 1st Ward-Kovalev Fight was a Corrupt Decision, REED Wouldn't Even Argue, but Main Events Promoted It, Which Kills Your Theory...It's Pretty Clear Canelo-Triple G I was Rigged...So It's NOT Like REED has an Issue w/Pointing Out CORRUPT Decisions on American Soil, Contrary to What You May Believe...

But Ward-Kovalev II was NOT an Example of One...Sorry...Poorly Officiated Fight DOESN'T Automatically Add Up to Corruption...You Make it Seem as if Ward-Kovalev II was Bute-Andrade I or Something...





REED

 

The whole ward kovalev fiasco reeked of corruption. Most americans dont want to ackowledge it cause it goes against the anti russia sentiment that is so prevalent right now in the us, but everybody who is not naive or partial knows it.

And after the second kovy fight. Forbes rated ward in the top 3 or 5 for boxers who had the potential to be the most lucrative (he could have fought some uk guys for huge money).To think that they wouldnt want to protect him, especially after the millions they invested in him, show a level of naivety that is baffling. And even if roc nation realised that ward would probably never turned out to be a lucrative fighter for them, people in the business world often fall into the sunk cost fallacy.

 

Can't believe guys are still butt hurt over Kovalev's two prior losses. I thought the first Ward fight was close and could have gone either way. The 2nd he simply got worked over by a better fighter.

 

Musze everybody on this site knows that you are biaised against eastern euro fighters.


If what happened to kovy happened to a us fighter in russia, you would be the first to cry corruption

 

Speaking as somebody who absolutely DESIRED to see Kovalev stretch Ward, I can’t see Kovalev being a victim of any anti-Russian agenda.... Politically wise, due to all the conservative propaganda that comes out yeah Russians do tend to get lumped into that wing but I don’t believe Kovalev was a victim of that... I had him winning that first fight and I still disagree with the verdict but there isn’t any proof that there was corruption or foul play of any sort.

In the 2nd fight, Kovalev just gave up, to be honest. And again, I rooted hard for him to win that fight. But his behavior/response to the adversity he was facing was borderline unbecoming of a fighter. Weeks did a horrible job, but Sergei showed very little desire to fight back or keep going in the fight. And he deserves whatever criticism he gets for being a front runner.

 

Biased? Cite evidence or shut your trap.

 

Ward/Kovalev looked like inept refereeing to me, not some big anti-Russian shakedown

 

LOL. I thought Kov won, but to even imply he got robbed because he's Russian is ridiculous and comical.

There's no anti-Russian sentiment in the US, and even if you're referring to the Trump/Russian collusion scandal, your argument would make no sense considering Ward-Kov 1 happened a few months prior to the US Presidential election! At a time where nobody thought Trump had a shot in Hell at winning over Clinton.

So, YOU have no idea what you're talking about, canuk.

I'm with REED 100%. Golov-Canelo 1 was a clear case of corruption.

Ward-Kov 1, I just believe the judges got it wrong.... as they often do.

Kov-Ward 1 was also a much closer fight than Golov-Canelo 1, which Golovkin won by a mile, in all honesty.

 

I figured he was talking about the rematch ... the first fight was a close fight ... I had it slightly for Kovalev but it wasn't a robbery at all

 

LOL at Forbes

Noted boxing publication

 

The RING has Apple rated as #7 on its "Top Ten Stocks You Should Short Sell"

 

Am I really seeing posts discussing anti-Russian sentiment as to why Kovalev lost the first fight to Ward?

WTF?

Did Robert Mueller, James Comey and Andrew McCabe judge the fight?

Perhaps Kovalev was in the room when the pee tape was filmed and Ward knows it.

MKGA - Make Kovalev Great Again

SAD

 

No, it's "Sad!"