IS KOVALEV IN TROUBLE THIS WEEKEND???...

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  1. Xplosive

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    I dunno about a black friend, but JOM definitely has a black love interest. And he happens to be a pimp. So what does that make JOM?
     
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    Loaded you unrecovereable imbecile. You dont have to be american to understand american culture. De tocqueville(not that any of you imbeciles knows who he is) produced one of the most profound sociological analysis of the american culture of his time, yet he was french
     
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    I believe I found an image of him writing his analysis

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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Nice use of an ethnic slur. Really classy
     
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    Your lecturing us on American culture is like Adonis Stevenson lecturing us on how to build a strong resume.
     
  8. REEDsART

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    Nah, You're Actually Helping to MAKE REED's Point FOR Him...

    If You Say "The Ukraine" to Most Americans, They'll Think it's STILL Part of Russia or Recently Split Away from Russia...So If There was ANY "Russian Bias" Existed, as You Stubbornly Claim, it'd Most Definitely Trickle Down to Lomachencko and his American Television Ratings...

    But by All Means, CONTINUE Illustrating Just How Ignorant YOU Are About The Going's On in America...







    REED:cool:
     
  9. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Maybe of you're surrounded by dotards and simple minded persons. The annexation of Crimea by Russia was all over the US media, and they constantly talked about the Ukrainian civil war a few years ago. Even if I have a pretty low perception of the intelligence of the average american, I dont think it is that bad.

    And even if it's true that most american think he's a russian, using an exceptional occurence and generalising it as a social trend is a terrible fallacy. Joe Louis was one of the most, if not the most, popular athlete during his reign, yet, there was a vast anti-black sentiment in the US at the time. Not to mention that in some case, the popularity of the athlete in question is in fact due to racism (the Hamed and Jack Johnson case, were a lot of people were watching, listening, cause they wanted to see the arab/negro lose)
     
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  10. REEDsART

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    Border Towns are HODGE PODGES of Both Areas, Not a TRUE Reflection of Either, in Essence...

    Border Towns in Southern Texas are SOMEWHAT Mexican and SOMEWHAT American, yet NEITHER in Reality...

    X or Someone Said it Earlier; America is Considerably More RACE Related than Nationalistic...WHERE You're From Isn't Nearly as Important as WHAT you Look Like, in America...

    Most Russians Could EASILY Blend In as WHITE Americans and No One Would Know the Fucking Difference, So Please Tap Out and Move On from this "Russian Bias" Bullshit Bruh....







    REED:cool:
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    you're confusing two different things. Of course, a black american will, in average, suffer more prejudice than a russian in america, cause, as you say, he is easily recognizable as a black while it is not the case for the russian. Still, it does not mean that he is more hated than the russian is, generally speaking. And stop about this nonsense that race is more important than nationality, especially in sport. you really think that most american would support a white foreigner over a black american?

    And just because you live in america, doesn't mean that you understand america. You might know about the small area where you're from and you live, but there's a ton of variation to american culture.
     
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    It Wasn't ABSORBED in America, is What REED's Trying to Tell You...

    Not Enough to Create Some "Russian Bias" to the Point of Influencing a BARELY Watched Rematch Featuring a Russian and a Brother Few Blacks Have Ever Heard Of...

    Perhaps MORE than Any Other Country, Americans have LOW Attention Spans and the Vast Majority of Us Give a Fuck about Politics Every 4 Years Exclusively, Dude...

    The "Ukrainian Civil War" Isn't Exactly TOP of Mind in Most American, Day to Day Conversations, Sorry...Neither is Russia, No Matter WHAT Periodicals You Subscribe To....







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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I've never said that the russian bias influenced the result of the match. I said that because of russian bias, americans don't want to acknowledge that corruption was probably involved
     
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    You Really DON'T Get It Dude...

    When Andrew Golota Fought in America, Most White American Fans Rooted for Him @ the Expense of Black American Fighters...FACT!!!...

    Larry Merchant OPENLY and ROUTINELY Lusted Over Wlad Klit on HBO Air Waves as he Defeated Byrd, McCline, Shufford, Jefferson and Mercer...All Black Americans...FACT!!!...

    And it's Not Just White Foreigners, Mexicans are Guilty Too...At Errol Spence's Last Fight (Against a Mexican), There were Mexican-American Fans, FROM DALLAS, Who were Rooting for Ocampo, a Guy They'd NEVER Heard Of Until he Signed to Fight Spence...FACT!!!...

    REED was Born in the Midwest, Attended College in the Southeast, Lives in the Southwest and Has Been Thru/Visited Roughly 40 States...w/Out Question, REED Knows MORE About America than You Ever Will...

    In This Particular Instance, You Really DON'T Know What the Fuck You're Talking About Dude...Not @ All...







    REED:cool:
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    When it comes to mexican, yes I agree that most mexican american would root for a mexican over a black american. But then, mexican american usually consider themselves more mexican than american, so it's not only a racial thing. For whites, no I don't believe it, at all. The Golota fans were pretty much all polish. No way were most white americans rooting for golota because of his skin color. Merchant was an old, senile, probably racist, fart. He's not a representation of anything

    The klits were unable to gain even a fraction of interest in the US, yet they should have been a promoter dream come true according to your theory cause they were dominant white heavyweights


    Pretty much all of the most popular athlete in america are black. Some of you guys act like we're still in the 40's. The concept that it is impossible for a black american athlete to get some preferential treatment over a white one (even a foreign one) in america is an unadulterated absurdity
     
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    Who Gives a Fuck What You "Believe" Dude? WHO the Fuck are YOU?! :D:DREED's Telling You What HAPPENED...

    This Song and Dance is Becoming TIRESOME...You Suggest ASSinine Points, You ASK for Examples, You're PRESENTED Examples, Then You Say "I Don't Believe it at All" OR "Unadulterated Absurdity" WITHOUT EVER PROVING A FUCKING THING YOURSELF...

    The Burden of Proof is On YOU Dude, Not the Litany of AMERICAN Motherfuckers Who've Wasted More than Half a Day Debating w/Your Asso_O...

    REED Listed No Fewer than 5 Black Americans Who were AFTER THOUGHTS When They Faced Wlad IN AMERICA But That's "Not a Representation of Anything" to You...Instead of TROLLING, Try PROVING What the Fuck You're Saying, Just 1nce?...

    Pertaining to Blacks in American Sports, X Nailed it on the Head w/the Backlash Over Anthem Protests...Rich White Men are TIRED of Blacks Complaining and Detracting from the NFL's (PAID) Patriotism...Look No Further than Cam Newton for a TRUE Representation of How Black Athletes are Treated in America...If Not for Colin Kapernick (Also Black), Cam Would Be THE Most Hated Athlete in All of Sports...

    Ezekiel Elliott is ACCUSED of Domestic Violence and it's a Certified Story for MONTHS, Yet Josh Brown (White Kicker for the Giants) ADMITS to Domestic Violence and it's BARELY Mentioned...

    Yet Again, REED's Providing EXAMPLES of How Little You ACTUALLY Know about America, Blacks, etc...Either Offer Up EVIDENCE of the Shit You're Spewing or Shut the Fuck Up Dude...

    Please...





    REED:rolleyes:
     
  18. Jesus of montreal

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    Reed, youre such an uneducated fool that you dont realise that your claim that most white americans were rooting for golota is as much a belief than my claim that it wasnt the case. Youre not spewing the fucking gospel, no matter how highly your igorant ass is thinking of himself, and you havent proved shit, far from it.

    Youre so intellectually limited that you dont realise that in pro sports, the system almost always protect the one who is the most popular, and lucrative athlete. Thats why tiger wood is treated better than most white golfer, even though hes a shit golfer nowadays. It has nothing with golf being systemically favorable toward black (far from it obviously). Thats why your wlad example doesnt make any senses.

    The whole notion that in america, in sports, race is more important than nationality is mind bogglingly stupid. If that was the case, most americans would be rooting for the serbian team when they face the american one in basketball, and white euro fighters would be superstar in the US (which almost never happens).

    Your ezekiel vs jones example is again a terrible one. Ezekiel is a all star running back, while jones is a fucking nobody kicker. Of course it will get more attention in the media. And jones lost his job because of this.

    But i do agree that black athletes will be treated, in genereal, more harshly in the media than white ones when they screw up. But this has more to do with the racism of american media and american society, than racism in sport. In sport, the most important factor is popularity, and white athletes do not tend to be more popular than black ones
     
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    Give me a fucking break. Anyone who commits a crime, and goes to jail, citizen or not, is separated from their kids. And if russian families crossed the border illegally, the same thing would happen .

    And: OJ

    Pretty sad you even buy into the idea millionaire black celebrity athletes are persecuted.
     
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    Who said that?
     
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    Sarah palin
    Edit: though it seems she didnt really said that
     
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    No. Actually it was Tina Fey, impersonating Sarah Palin.
     
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    Good call by Reed and yet I wasn't impressed by Alvarez very much despite Kovalev being one of my favorite fighters.

    When you've seen a guy melt people with jabs and unflush punches earlier in his career, it's easy enough to say that age has caught up with him and he doesn't have the same power he used to when he falls apart at this stage of his career.

    I know the old power is the last thing to go adage, but I don't think Kovalev's power is what it was. Kovalev was an excellent fighter in large part because of his mega power. He's apparently lost that and now he's just a very good fighter. So in my mind, Alvarez just beat a very good fighter and I'm not even convinced Alaravez is any more than that himself.

    Bivol has qualities that I haven't seen at light heavy before. That foot speed is ridiculous. Still not sure he's better than Beterbiev now or Kovalev at Kovalev's best, but can't wait to see his next fight. Chilemba didn't really expose any weaknesses imo, he just showed Bivol that bright light doesn't blind everyone. Hopefully Bivol doesn't turn into a boxer like Freitas did when this happened to him.
     
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    You've never seen a lightheavy
    with footspeed like Bivol??? Huh??

    Hmmm... I dunno... this is a tough one.. but how about the guy who was in his fucking opponent's corner? I hear he had marginal speed...
     
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    What a TROLLING, ARGUMENTATIVE Tool You Are...

    REED is Older, Wiser, More Experienced than You AND has Lived the ENTIRETY of his Life as a BLACK AMERICAN. But Yeah, YOU Know More about that Based on Some Lame Ass Periodicals:rolleyes:...

    If There's NO Racism is Sports WHY are the Percentages of Black Head Coaches and GM's in Sports Still SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER than the Percentage of Black Players in Sports? If Not for OVERT RACISM in Sports, the Rooney Rule Wouldn't Have Been Implemented...It's Doubtful Your DETACHED Ass Even Knows What the Rooney Rule Is...

    30 Years After Al Campanis' Infamous Quote on Blacks and How They ""may not have some of the necessities to be a field manager or general manager" , That War is STILL Being Waged Today...You Don't Know Who the Fuck Al Campanis Is Either...

    Nonetheless, These are Fuuuuuurther Tangible EXAMPLES of What You DON'T Know...Literally PROOF You Don't Have the Foggiest Idea What You're Talking About Bruh...

    You're Nothing More than a Blowhard, Contrarian TROLL...





    REED:cool:
     
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    In the U.S., a White Guy Can Blow Up a Government Building or Shoot Up a Country Music Concert FREE of Labels, Yet a Muslim is Automatically Viewed as a TERRORIST for Lesser Deeds...

    You KNOW the Color Lines Exist, You're Just PLAYING Dumb....







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    I guess i should have been more precise and clearly stipulate that i was refering to the athletes when i said there was barely any racism in sports (even though i thought it was obvious) Of course there is racism when it comes to upper management and coaching position.

    Let me just ask you a question. Do you really think its impossible for a black athlete to get a preferential treatment over a white one (even a foreign one) in the states?
     
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    Only on round 4 he looked like he was hurt, but immediately started slugging it out. Honestly I gave Kovalev only two rounds: 4 & 6 (thanks to the accidental headbutt).
     
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