Canelo vs GGG 2, predictions

Yeah, i have some university database to acces them. And im not saying its impossible to find a peer reviewed scientific article through google, only that most of the time, you wont be referred to one, unless youre very precise in your search

Anyway, i dont know why you insist on insinuating you have some credible peer reviewed scientific article showing a positive link between clen and stamina. Either show it if it's the case, or simply admit that your source was a random website

 

What do you have to say now smart guy?

 

I keep envisioning a canelo body shot badly hurting GGG.

Tough fight to call

 

Both have great chins, equal resistance to big shots, Canelo is probably the harder puncher, one-shot, but Golvkin is more consistent.
Who is the better boxing technician?

 

Canelo is better defensively and GGG has the better jab. Tough to call.

It’ll be a better fight than the original though. There’s genuine bad blood this time whereas last time out there was a bit of a bromance. Additionally GGG will not want to leave it in the hands of the judges and Canelo wants to prove to the doubters that he deserved at least a draw last time out.

Canelo has experienced first hand the strength of Golovkin’s chin and so he’ll throw more body shots this time to try to slow him down and GGG knows he has to be more aggressive so he’ll be throwing more power punches and not just relying on the jab like last time.

 

I think Golovkin´s chin is more of an attribute than his power, which I´ve never thought was a ´game-changer´ anyway...certainly not vs an opponent like Canelo.
Even Martin Murray said George Groves at 168 hits harder than Golovkin at 160.

 

Canelo isnt a harder puncher than Golov by any stretch. His power is a myth.

He couldn't even WOBBLE shit chinned Cotto. EVERYBODY wobbles Cotto.

Forgive me if I'm not impressed that he scored brutal KOs over Khan and Kirkland, the two worst chins boxing has ever had.

 

Dude, its well known in boxing circles that Canelo, one-shot power, hits harder than Golovkin.
It´s Golvkin´s power that is overrated by people to be at Hearns/Jackson/McClellan level....and it ain´t anywhere near.

 

I think the two are about equal in power, GGG is more dangerous though because he’s relentless. It’s possible that on single shots Canelo may have a slight edge but GGG is more likely to stop guys because of his pressure. I agree that GGG’s power tends to be overrated.

Hagler’s power was overrated too and for similar reasons. Hagler was relentless; stamina for days and you just simply couldn’t hurt him. So he kept coming and applying the pressure and eventually a man would fold. Hagler has power but nowhere near his reputation. Hearns punched three times as hard as hagler for example but you wouldn’t think so in their fight.

 

It's been like 5 years since anybody has compared Golov's power to Jackson or Hearns.

Who does it now?

As far as overrated... BOTH of these guys will go down as being overrated as fighters in general.

Neither is as good as their hype and would lose to the great middleweights.

But Golov woukd definitely be more competitive against some greats than Ginger would be.

 

BT Sport have got a brand new PPV channel called BT Sport Box Office. So you can't watch the fight on the normal BT Sport channels or even Boxnation. That's just shit. Once my contract for BT Sport runs out, I'm going to cancel. Is proving a waste of money tbh and I have it at a discount price.

 

Boxnation was great for a good while but the channel doesn't show any fights anymore. Complete rubbish now.

 

Just prepare a bunch of streams. If one cuts out switch to another. Practically every A list card has been on PPV for years making subscriptions services worthless.

 

I think Canelo will start aggressive but the moment he takes a couple of right hands, he’ll revert to going on his bike and fighting in spurts to try to steal the rounds.

It’s gonna be very similar to the first fight.

 

Canelo would gas again allowing GGG to box his way to a 115-113 decision

 

Loool @ PPV
We get all these fights for free.

 

$89.95. That’s some crazy shit

 

How cool. This week two of the three biggest stars in the sport are fighting and it costs $100 and next week the sport's only other star is fighting on a streaming service that literally NOBODY in the mainstream knows exists.

Yaaayyy boxing!!

 

There's not much hype to this rematch at all compared to the first fight.

 

Boxing was riding high this time last year because Floyd had just spanked McBummer and killed the dreams of millions of UFC fans. As a result, suddenly a lot of mainstream fans were interested in boxing.

Our sport had a lot of momentum going for it, but thanks to Canelo juicing, the Wilder-Joshua talks falling apart, and more paywalls... all that momentum is gone.

 

I had totally forgot about this rematch until I saw a headliner on Yahoo! yesterday. Honestly I couldn't care less if I don't watch it, but me & my wife got invited to this friend's house who will have it on a huge screen by the pool with lots of food & drinks plus MILFs in bikini. How can I say no?

 

I can't find anything about it helping stamina directly, but there are plenty of pubmed articles about it increasing lean muscle mass and reducing adipose levels in rats - quite dramatically in fact. I would hypothesise that if a boxer increases their lean muscle mass and lowers their adipose levels, then increased stamina might be an indirect outcome which one could reasonably expect.

Effects of clenbuterol on skeletal muscle mass, body composition, and recovery from surgical stress in senescent rats. - PubMed - NCBI

Anabolic effects of clenbuterol on skeletal muscle are mediated by beta 2-adrenoceptor activation. - PubMed - NCBI

Clenbuterol: a substitute for anabolic steroids? - PubMed - NCBI

Clenbuterol decreases catabolism and increases hypermetabolism in burned rats. - PubMed - NCBI

Anabolic effects of clenbuterol after long-term treatment and withdrawal in t the rat. - PubMed - NCBI

 

I think this review is probably untrustworthy as they have spelt Harvard wrong.

 

I'd like Golovkin to win but if I had to bet I might go for Canelo. Time and age is on his side here and his shots are heavier than anyone wants to admit here, certainly powerful enough to trouble GGG whose defense has gone sloppier

 

UGO is correct, Canelo’s shots are heavier than most people give him credit for.

Because Canelo is a spurt fighter and likes to move alot and pick his shots, he’s not effective against runners and or guys just looking to stay out of trouble and survive. However against guys that come at him and are there to be hit...he’s dangerous.

GGG’s style is perfect for him actually, because Golovkin is a pressure fighter. The thing is though that GGG happens to also be a very good pressure fighter with a great chin, heavy hands and great stamina.

This is why these guys were competitive last time (regardless of what the haters say) and why it’ll be competitive again.

 

Very few (if any) said it wasn't competitive. That's not the same as the decision being correct. Golovkin won the fight.

 

Actually there are a few people here that act like GGG won 8 or 9 rounds and in my mind that’s not a competitive picture

 

One guy can win a round without debate. That doesn't mean that round wasn't competitive.

Competitive doesn't mean it was so close to call it could have gone either way.

 

Yeah but this clever popular vote (as opposed to electoral college vote ) logic you’re using isn’t what most posters here are alluding to when they say a fight isn’t close.