HBO DROPPING OUT of the Boxing Business, After 45 Years...

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  1. REEDsART

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    Yes, Showtime's Been RAPING HBO for the Last Several Years and Yes, ESPN Jumped In and Made it a GANG RAPE of HBO, but it Never 1nce Occurred to REED HBO Would Tap the Fuck Out Completely....

    WOW!





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    And with That Said, Canelo and Triple G are FREE AGENTS, in Terms of Networks...






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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Hopefully this means more boxing on free tv...ESPN...nbc...abc...fox...etc
     
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    Sports needs superstars to thrive. Boxing has none. HBO made the right call. They should try to get pro wrestling on there instead or UFC.
     
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    New Stars are Materializing Right Before Your Eyes Hanz...

    Nearly 2 Million Viewers Watched Lomachenko vs. Linares on ESPN. 1.79mil to Be Exact...Deontay Wilder REGUARLY Does Over a Million Viewers for Showtime...

    There will Always Be Stars in Boxing....






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  9. Hanz

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    But considering there are 327 million people in America, is 1.79 million viewers really that much? And most of them are over the age of 49.
    Where are the real stars? Stars like Ali, Tyson, Trinidad, De Ly Hoya, Foreman, etc? Those are the stars that boxing hasn't yet replaced. Larry Merchant once said that the best heavyweight in the world is playing in the NFL. I guess that makes sense. Why do boxing when you can be in the NFL or NBA.
     
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    Hanz as some fucking nerve talking about the lack of star power in boxing, when literally THE ONLY mainstream star UFC has is semi-retired, and might be officially retired next month.

    Canelo is a much bigger star than ANYBODY in Homo Grappling not named McGregor. Joshua is a much bigger star than anyone in homo grappling not named McGregor.

    What in THE fuck are you talking about?

    MMA is BADLY struggling to create stars.
     
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    Wonder what has been the cause consequence though. It can be that they have been raped since they haven't put ib the money and effort anymore.

    Still, shocking news, and as much as people have complained about them, they will be sorely missed, sooner than later
     
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    “This is not a subjective decision,” Nelson said to the New York Times. “Our audience research informs us that boxing is no longer a determinant factor for subscribing to HBO.”

    There's probably a lot of subscribers who have HBO exclusively for boxing so they can expect a lot of cancellations. They wouldn't make such a big decision without the research backing their decision so surely they can weather it.
     
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    Hanz, You Know as Well as REED 1 Million PPV Buys in Considered VERY Successful. 1-2 YEARS Will Pass w/Out a Single PPV Generating 1mil.

    Granted, it's NOT PPV, but there's NO Negative Spin to Place on 1.79mil for the ESPN Showing of Lomachenko vs. Linares...Ditto for the 2-3 Times Wilder's Generated a Million + Views on Showtime...

    Stars are GROWN, NURTURED...Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao Weren't Stars Until they BECAME Stars...

    Canelo Alvarez is Most Certainly a Star...And if He Plays His Cards Right, Anthony Joshua Could Be Boxing's 1st GLOBAL Star Since Mike Tyson...









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  14. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    There won´t ever be that level of globally-known boxing superstar again, probably.
    The names of Mayweather, Pacquiao, Klitschko, Golovkin are the closest you´ll get to ´superstar´ names since 2010.
     
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    I will certainly miss their production quality. Big fights just don't have the same feel on other networks.
     
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    UFC can put together an easy 5-6 fights on a basic FightNight event on free television and half of those fights end in KOs. The fights are short at 3 rounds of 5 minutes so it doesn't drag on too much. In boxing, we have to sit through 10-12 rounds of 2 guys who are only trying to get a paycheque and neither one having the motive or ambition to go for the kill or make it entertaining. Both guys thinking they're entertaining the audience while the audience is bored out of their minds. Very rare to get any fireworks in boxing these days. Not that UFC is killing it but at least the fights are a lot shorter so we don't have to suffer through 45 minutes of boredom.
     
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    I'm reducing my cable package tomorrow, because yes, I only had HBO for boxing.

    I have to see what options they have, but basically, I'm down to dropping all my movie channels and just picking up Showtime separately.

    Between Netflix, Hulu, and the Fire Stick, there's literally no need for movie channels anymore, except to watch boxing.
     
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    It's Literally THE Only Reason REED Has HBO....





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    Most companies will ask why anyway but if they don't, make sure to expressly mention cancelling because of boxing.
     
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    Surely you're not alone but I wonder what the numbers would be percentage wise.
     
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    They Won't Admit it, but HBO's Decision to NOT Do Business w/Al Haymon Fighters is What Started their DOWNWARD Spiral...

    In Their Supreme ARROGANCE, HBO Flippantly Dismissed Haymon's Influence/Impact and His Business Model...










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    I will, but like you said, they ALWAYS ask.
     
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    I will, but like you said, they ALWAYS ask.
     
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    If we go to the pub, you won't see people crowding around cheering and fist pumping during a Lomachenko match the way they did for fights like Trinidad/Vargas or Pacquaio/Morales, etc.
    Wilder/Fury is definitely one I'm really anticipating but to be the next global star on the level of Ali or Tyson isn't likely. Even Anthony Joshua isn't really getting much attention in the U.S as he hasn't taken the risk of crossing over. He doesn't fight with that same fire or conviction as Tyson nor does he have the charisma or appeal of Ali. He has the look though. But he's really a plodding, clubbing big man beating up on much smaller guys. He's like Lennox. Not really overly charismatic but effective nonetheless. As Mustard said, maybe having global stars like Ali and Tyson is a thing of the past. I'm not sure.
     
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    Nice! Can finally cancel. And fuck Max and Lampley.
     
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    Pretty sure that neither one is gonna be hurting for their next meal.

    Lampley probably has more than enough to retire on, and Max gets a nice, cushy salary from ESPN.

    Then there's Roy... I have no clue what Roy's financial standing is, and how dependent he was on HBO gigs.
     
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    This is the correct decision. They have been reducing their boxing budget steadily. Top Rank took their elite fighters off of there. Fox and Dazn are spending a ton of money now on boxing. Along with Showtime and ESPN hey have too many dates to fill and not enough fighters.

    Imo boxing is in a transition stage with all of the new deals, bidding wars and the sport being broadcast via streaming services.

    It is going to be interesting if this will increase the popularity of the sport.
     
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    I guess in a sense this is bad news, because apparently, the cost to put on the HBO shows was largely subsidized by non-boxing fans, which is nice. So the loss of shows may not necessarily be made up for by other networks - at least not shows with similar costs .... although it's possible the same shows on showtime would make financial sense. But not sure.

    I wanted to see more superfly and Canelo vs Jacobs.
     
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    Believe me. I'm not worried about either one. As far as RJJ, if he's not still rich as fuck it's a travesty.
     
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    I totally forgot about Jacobs vs Derevencheko. So that'll be it. That telecast will be the swansong.

    Don't be a bullshitter and act like this isn't sad news. Despite what our feelings might be on Lampley, and Kellerman, put that to the side... until recent years, HBO WAS BOXING... for our entire lives.

    Of course this is sad news.

    No doubt sensitive ass Lampley will cry on the final telecast...
     

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