How do y’all see this? While I think Curry is the better technician and all, I suspect that Spence has the intengibles here. I think he would break Curry down over the long haul and win a come from behind TKO in the late rounds.
Jury is still out on this matchup. Spence has the tools to pull it off, but Curry was a helluva lot better than Kell Brook
Either Curry fucks him up with sharper punching in under 6 or Spence breaks him down. I think it would come down to whether Spence can handle the power early and whether he can fully recover if he’s hurt.
I could understand that. And again, I see Curry’s class telling very early throughout the bout. And though I don’t believe Curry is as soft as some here believe, he wasn’t exactly known for having Leonard like durability. If Spence can handle Curry’s power (We’d find out very quickly in this fight if he could), I feel he’d go on to slowly but surely break Curry down late with the pressure and body work. He’d likely have to overcome a lot of scary moments and he’d be down on the cards. But I can envision this.
Spence is a middleweight and Curry isn't ... it matters ... if it didn't there would never have been weight classes in the first place... Curry never even fought as a middleweight... Spence would be the biggest guy he ever faced
Nunn was a naturally bigger man than Spence. Not even up for debate. Didnt Spence come into the ring at like 155 for the Ocampo fight? He's not a guy who abuses weigh-ins like Canelo and Munguia. Nunn was a huge middleweight. They are not the same. He was without question a bigger man than Spence Plus, if given a 30 hour weigh in, I assure Curry would have been coming into the ring 10-12 pounds heavier. Curry was a big welterweight, even today.
Sorry but these matchups are nonsense until we stop pretending that these guys fought in the same weight class "Curry would've gained..." "Nunn would be..." "Spence would be" It's all useless info... Curry wasn't, Nunn wasnt, Spence isn't Donald Curry actually weighed 147 ... Spence actually doesn't ... it fucking MATTERS "Oh, Louis would be an inch taller with better childhood nutrition and with today's weight training and undetectable supplements, he'd be a 245 pound slab of beef so it doesn't matter that Vitali is 250 and he fought at 198" ... that's the most pointless, baseless conversation imaginable If we're going to match Spence with 80s fighters, match him with the weightclass he actually fights in: middleweight
Huh? The only thing anyone said is that you are wrong about the fact Spence would've been the biggest guy Curry faced. You got one wrong. It's okay. Maybe the Nunn fight slipped your mind. No sense in wasting your time trying to cover it up. It's no big deal. Except I guess it does kind of undermine your status as the forum know-it-all. Being wrong is tough for know-it-alls.
Everybody probably seems like a know-it-all when you read like a 6 year old. This matchup doesn't specify "Spence vs the shot Donald Curry that fought Michael Nunn", I figured it was meant to match Spence with the younger version of Curry who could actually fight which would've made it a match between a welterweight and a middleweight (my original post, you fucking imbecile)
And yet, you followed it up by making the claim that Nunn is merely taller than Spence? But not bigger? And you said he never fought a middleweight. Forgive me for going by what was written. Interestingly, Curry looked pretty good in that fight early on. And was catching Nunn with some really clean shots. He was just too small to hurt Nunn. And as rounds went on, Nunn's size became more and more a factor. Curry was definitely past his prime in that fight but not shot.
Nunn is a lot taller than Spence but they are a lot closer to each other in weight in the ring than Spence and Curry are ... I stand by it Furthermore, Was Curry 147 against Nunn? He'd be 147 here The fight was an irrelevant joke... no reason for it to happen and I think it's the only fight he ever had at the weight... Starling did far better
Curry was already fighting at 154, the weight Spence would hypothetically fight at in a same day weigh-in match, before the big unification with McCrory. And even before that fight, the weigh-ins before the day of the fight were already occurring
You're making no fuckin sense, man. You never do when it comes to the whole weigh-in thing. Spence actually DOES weigh-in at 147... the guy isn't missing weight. And I already accurately stated, that he doesn't put on a substantial amount by fight night. If you think that guys in 80s came into the ring weighing EXACTLY the same as what they weighed in at, then I have beach front property in North Dakota to sell you. Curry was killing himself to make 147... he could have easily been putting on 5-8 pounds by time he entered the ring, even on a same-day weigh-in. That'd be putting him roughly around what Spence comes into the ring at... maybe a few pounds lighter, but it's not like Spence would have 15 pounds on him. I can remember Leonard once saying that he put on about 5 pounds by time he entered the ring, and Leonard wasn't killing himself to make welter the way Curry was. Again... Spence is not a weight cheat the way Canelo is. And I maintain that saying Spence is the same size as Nunn is ridiculous. Are you forgetting that Nunn actually fought in the 24-hr weigh-in era???? Michael Nunn would have to cut off both his legs to make welterweight in ANY era. He's obviously bigger than Spence. Once again, you're making zero sense.
No, Curry wasn't gaining 8 pounds in a few hours... nobody was... all this drying out and then blowing up shit didn't start happening until same-day weigh-ins had been gone for years That's why even into the 1990s, weight cutters like McClellan stuck out like sore thumbs... that shit was brand new to boxing ... now, McClellan would be just another guy cutting weight like everybody else but in those days he was coming in way heavier than his opponents That's why HBO started checking weights right before the fight; because it was a new thing
If you weigh-in in the morning and your body is depleted, if you drink enough liquids and have a few solid meals before the fight, that can easily equate to 5-6 pounds heavier by time you enter the ring. Do you honestly believe Curry walked into the ring at 147? I'm calling bullshit on that.
And btw, of course Joe Louis wouldn't be 245 today. Holy exaggeration. If prime Louis was around right now, Usyk would be laying on his death bed as we speak.
Nope, probably about 150 or so like everybody else back then, not 160 That's my point about Louis... speculation about his size today is stupid, all we can go by that's of any use is the size he actually was
There's a HUGE difference between saying that with a 24-hour weigh-in Curry would put on about 10 pounds and saying that Louis would be a 245 pound guy. Louis would considered P4P #1 because he'd be 10x more dominant at Cruiser than Usyk currently is. Louis was also good enough to make the jump up in weight and beat up bum ass Wilder. No one can convince me that Wilder beats a prime Louis. The gap in skill/ability to beat out Wilder's height.
