Bivol-Pascal tonight

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Xplosive, Nov 24, 2018.

  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    If anybody cares. I think this it for HBO. How fitting... they go out with a showcase fight.

    I think Bivol is headed to DAZN after this, so hopefully that sets up Bivol-Beterbiev.
     
  2. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    REED:cool:
     
  3. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Bivol should win in style, but Pascal never stops trying and thus it could be entertaining.
     
  4. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    This was originally suppose to be Bivol vs Joe Smith, but Smith backed out cause DAZN offered him a lot more money to fight Beterbiev than HBO was offering him for Bivol.

    I woulda rather it been Smith. Of course, Bivol woulda battered Smith, but at least Smith is young and a big puncher.
     
  5. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    I think HBO has another show after this. With chocalito. No?
     
  6. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Oh. Didnt know.
     
  7. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    This isn't the real Zarate
     
  8. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    the fake zarate took a beating
     
  9. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Ironically enough, I'm watching fights of the real one on YouTube right now.
     
  10. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Donde Esta La Stream?




    REED:(:(
     
  11. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Bivol is good, but sure ain't great to watch
     
  12. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Bivol is feather-fisted
     
  13. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Prime pascal probably beats bivol, or gives him hell at the very least
     
  14. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    So much for Bivol being as good as a prime Kov.
     
  15. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Bivol seemed like the goods when he destroyed Barrera, but after that he has had lackluster performances. Seems like he lost his mean spirit quickly
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2018
  16. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Its possible he fights up to the level of his comp and needs the right fighter to bring him outta 1st gear. But as of right now, Beterbiev would have to be favored over him.

    Shot Pascal would not see 12 with Beterbiev.
     
  17. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Agreed with all this. Beterbiev couldn't put away Kölling who did a survival but so far anybody who has exchanged with him even a little bit has gone down
     
  18. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Last year people were saying the exact opposite. That Bivol was better than Beterbiev. Have to question the methodology here.
     
  19. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    In science, as in several other life areas, you make a hypothesis and as you gather more knowledge, you correct your opinion.

    We could take a stance of 'we can't know, let's wait and see' to everything and evaluate fighters only after they retire to be sure, but that doesn't sound very fun.

    Or, of course, we could go to Twitter and shout out whatever we like and claim it to be true, despite what the results say
     
  20. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Yes. And in our analysis of the data, we are careful to control for key factors and not to reject our hypotheses on the basis of random noise.
     
  21. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Going by Double's logic, we're still suppose to believe that Felix Verdejo will be an elite fighter, since it did look that way until he stepped up.

    Bivol is stepping up and looking less impressive. It's just facts. He's still a top fighter, no one is calling him a fraud, but he's not looking like a guy who's rule 175 for years to come. Could he still be that guy? Yes. But he didnt look like it last night.
     
  22. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Bivol won every round. Besides not getting the ko, was there anything else he didn't do?
     
  23. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Mannn Froch damn near won every round against a prime Pascal. A washed up Hopkins TWICE dominated a prime Pascal. That shit ain't impressive, that Bivol shutout a shot Pascal. We wanted to see more.
     
  24. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    No way hopkins dominated pascal twice. In fact he was lucky to get the draw the first time around, cause a kd against him wasnt counted. Everybody rebember the latter half, but pascal was whooping bhop in the first rounds, and this is coming from someone who was rooting for nard
     
  25. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Froch-Pascal was competitive. Carl won clearly but it wasn't a shut out or anything.
     
  26. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Caught some of the fight, Bivol looked alright to me, without looking spectacular. Don't really get the criticism if I'm honest, Pascal isn't brilliant but he's always been a tough and awkward dude.
     
  27. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    X you need to get a handle on your hyerpole problem.
     
  28. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    I was intentionally exaggerating a bit.

    Haven't watched Froch-Pascal in many years, but from what I remember, Froch won about 9 rounds.

    It was Froch's best performance along with Bute.
     
  29. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    I said "damn near" every round, smart ass.

    As I said, Froch from what I remember won 9-3. Shit, that is "damn near" every round.
     
  30. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Sad thing is, Verdejo never really “stepped up.He couldn’t even make it out of the top 50 level guys. Even Juanma was better than him.

    Bivol is good but maybe not quite the phenomenon we had hoped he’d become.
     

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