Chris Arreola rates Wilder's power

7/10. He rates Vitaly K at 9/10. Told you Wilder's power is overrated... Even Szpilka said Wilder doesn't hit that hard (Yes he was KTFO but thats because he jumped into a punch he didnt see. Before that he took MANY flush right hands with no problem)

 

Ive been saying this on the forum for fuckin ages.
Wilder is not Lewis/Tyson/Foreman/Shavers power at all .

 

People are just desperate nowadays for the next Tyson..

 

Especially American 'boxing people'.
There is no way a 210-215 boxer punches harder than those guys Ive listed above.
No. Way.
Especially as Wilder has as much boxing ability as REED does in a Crossfit open-day.

Wilder has some power and a lot of 'snap' but that's all.

 

Yeah, there's no way Deontay at 215-220 could punch as hard as Tyson who was also 215-220.

 

Exactly, there's no way Wilder at 215 punches as hard as Tyson who was also 220.

 

Why are you bringing up Tyson? It's 2018 now. Not 1988. The past is the past. It's not like Tyson fought in an era of killing machines.

 

No clue what you're talking about.

 

I'm saying who cares who hits harder than who? Stick to the topic instead of fawning over sh*t from 30 years ago.

 

Because its always been on of the great topics and debating points of boxing, you cripple.

Same with many other sports.

Idiot.

Die.

 

Vitali beats both of the guys who fought last night.

Wilder has fast whips but he's not got heavy hands like Vitali, not quite. Vitali really hurt guys, he just wasn't fast enough to get the whip on the shots that Wilder does.

 

Vitali had paper skin. A few shots from Wilder and Vitali's skin splits open with blood pouring out like a faucet. Vitali never fought any big guys other than a fat old Lennox.

 

Old fat Lewis kos wilder. Badly

 

I don't see any debate happening. I just see a faggot talking sh*t about the good old days. Acting like the boxers of yesterday were so amazing when in reality they would have a lot of trouble with the giants we got today. What the f*ck you thinking that a f*cking 5'9 midget with short arms like Tyson is gonna do sh*t against a 6'9 265 lb Tyson Fury? The guy would measure up to Fury's nipples. The size differential is just a whole other level that Tyson's midget ass never dealt with. LOL

 

Still have no idea what point you're trying to make.

However I do think Tyson would have trouble with Tyson.

 

Exactly.

The Lewis from the Vitali fight still KO's Wilder.

 

Fury has no shot in Hell against his hero. None.

He can't hurt Mike, he doesn't have enough pop. You simply CANNOT CANNOT CANNOT beat a prime Tyson if you can't hurt him.

Mike would easily get inside on Fury and destroy his fleshy midsection, before ending him with a hook upstairs.

It's a lot easier to outbox an oaf like WIlder than it is a man who had elite skill like Mike.

 

Xplosive said "Fury has no shot in Hell against his hero. None.
He can't hurt Mike, he doesn't have enough pop. You simply CANNOT CANNOT CANNOT beat a prime Tyson if you can't hurt him.
Mike would easily get inside on Fury and destroy his fleshy midsection, before ending him with a hook upstairs.
It's a lot easier to outbox an oaf like WIlder than it is a man who had elite skill like Mike."

Exactly what I thought too.
So, if I were you, Hanzy Id fuck off and DIE

 

I think Fury would give hell to Tyson. And Fury definitively beat Vitaly. VK looked like a big robot against Byrd, who was slick but a midget. I don't think his stiff ass would be able to deal with Fury size and movement, and he's not a concussive puncher, so he couldn't count on that to bail him out a la Wilder

 

Would be a very interesting fight. I agree VK would have trouble with TF's fast hands and feet.

 

Prime Vitali would stop Fury.

I hated the man with a passion, but I say with zero hesitation that Vitali was better than the current big 3.

 

Vitali was as unorthodox as Fury and twice as mean.

 

Could Lennox have taken that right hand to the jaw that dropped Fury in the 12th?

I don't remember Tyson getting in on Tony Tucker or Bonecrusher and crushing their mid-section. Tyson wasn't an avid body puncher. He was mostly a head hunter.

 

He's a f*cking die hard Tyson fanatic who thinks prime Tyson beats Lewis, Holyfield, Ali and Foreman all on the same night. What do you expect him to say? LOL

 

Against little men half his size.

 

Forward to 5:36

 

Yeah, I forwarded to 5:35, listened for a few minutes and then Tyson, like many others was told: "DIE!"




To summarize, Tyson crushes anyone today just by simply outboxing them.

 

I agree. I would pick Vitali but he is not having an easy time. How many guys did Vitali fight who were the size of Fury, let alone moved like him? Fury gives a lot of really good/great heavyweights problems, people need to realise the guy is a bloody good fighter.

 

I don't think Lewis would have gotten hit by the shots Fury did but it's worth noting this is Fury's first live fight in 2 years.

It's also Wilders first live fight ever.

 

It's a question of mentality rather than physicality. I really think Vitali would just walk into him and make him go into a shell. Vitali would make him fight at a pace and I don't think Fury has ever been in a fight where he has been forced to work. The first time John McDermott tried that and Fury really struggled, and he was a younger lighter man then. It's a blend of balls, power and work rate that beats Fury,or as discussed, it's the Mike Tyson style where you bob and explode.