Roy Jones vs Wilder

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by BOSS, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. BOSS

    BOSS TBD

    Wilder is not a big heavyweight. Tall but not big nor physical. He would have a huge reach advantage but Wilder doesn't jab.. Can Roy avoid those huge schoolyard haymakers?? Will Roy's glass chin hold up??
     
  2. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    It's totally plausible for Roy to win a decision and pot shot this daft cunt to death

    It's also plausible he's pot shotting him to death and gets nailed a by a desperate haymaker and hurt too badly to recover
     
  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Love Roy, but the second scenario is more plausible.

    I just can't see him going 12 with guy who's 6'7 with a long reach and not getting nailed at all. Especially because in the Ruiz fight Roy wasn't as quick on his feet as he was at 175. Which is fine, against Ruiz, but not fine against Wilder.

    Roy would make Wilder look stupid... right up until the point he gets brutally flattened.
     
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  4. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    To be honest, I don't like Roy's chance against any huge punching heavyweight in history.
     
  5. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Me either

    Wilder is horrible but I think he can eventually get one home
     
  6. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    A guy who cracks as hard as Wilder will have a chance against nearly any heavyweight bar the absolute all-time elite, regardless of the talent differential. I think Roy makes him look silly for a good while but something will get through at some point.
     
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  7. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Wilder for sure. He's not a guy that goes in a shell. He beats RJ rather easily
     
  8. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Oh bullshit ... the guy can't even box

    One does not need to be anywhere fucking NEAR an "all time elite" to beat him ... the guy that just got jobbed against him surely isn't
     
  9. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I’m probably in the minority, but I think even Wilder’s power is a bit overrated.

    If it had been any of the likes of Foreman, Tyson, or Lewis landing that big right hand, Tyson Fury doesn’t get up, let alone finish the round.

    The way many talk, you’d think he punches on the same level as those guys and he clearly doesn’t.
     
  10. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Agree

    He has power but some of this talk around here is off the wall
     
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  11. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I completely disagree. His power is as good as it gets. Whoever he hit, he hurt bad.
     
  12. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I don't see how we could know this for sure. Fury has shown good recuperative strength before, the fact that Wilder's punch took his senses for only five seconds isn't a shame.

    Also, not even Lennox scored that many one-punch KOs. Guys like Briggs and even Morrison took plenty of battering against him, Golota was finished with half-dozen crosses etc.

    I don't see how Wilder couldn't be in their class when comparing power (and nothing else, obviously)
     
  13. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    I think the best example of Lewis' power is the first Holy fight when he hit Holy with a right hand to the body that literally lifted him off the canvas. He also lifted Botha off the canvas when he stopped him. No, I don't think Wilder hits like Lewis did.

    But is Wilder's power legit? Of course. He's a devastating puncher.

    I'm not convinced that Wilder hits any harder than a young Wald though. I think their right hands carry similar power.... but Lewis had a bigger right hand than both of them.

    Lewis' power even sounded different. When he was clubbing away at Golota, it sounded a sledgehammer was hitting the poor Pole.

    Lummox had unbelievable power.
     
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  14. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    You know that's not what I said. I didn't say you had to be all-time elite to beat him.
     
  15. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    I would agree though that Lewis is the hardest puncher ever.
     
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  16. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Exactly. There are several 'barring a one-punch KO' picks, and Wilder is a prototype of a fighter in the losing end of such bouts. Cdogg just can't see properly through Wilder's windmills
     
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  17. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    He has a legit argument for sure. The sound of the punch from the Rahman KO still rings in my ears.

    He had ridiculous power.
     
  18. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Pernell Whitaker had at least three one punch KOs which is probably as many as Julian Jackson had ... it's simply not a reliable measure of power
     
  19. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Lennox Lewis was a ridiculous hitter with the right hand and actually knew how to throw one and knocked out some good fighters
     
  20. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Roy ahead 40-36 until the inevitable windmill KO happens
     
  21. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    to reiterate, wilder for sure. No way roy survives 12 rounds against this magnificient bronze bomber
     

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