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I think that's only partly true. Mourinho wanted some players and the club didn't agree with his choices. I don't think they were just going out buying players and gave Mourinho no say on the matter.

 

Just found out o2 mistakenly took 270 quid out my account. Guy on the phone was very apologetic but can't get me the money back before January. Merry Xmas.

On the upside he alerted me to the fact spotify been double charging me all year like cunts so not a total loss

 

If you owed them 270 by some miracle they'd be able to get that money back in a nanosecond.

 

Lang may yer lum reek.

 

That's bullshit about the refund... you call O2 directly?

 

Verizon would probably tell you their company policy is to not issue refunds.

If Comcast was in the wireless business they'd charge you an additional 270 for daring to ask.

 

LOL

They'd be full of it... a refund to a card can be done in a minute and lands on your card in 2 days tops... even electronic check refund, a week tops

 

Sorry. Not possible.

 

The black ladies ... ok, hun, just bend over and LEMME LOOK INSIDE YO ASSHOLE

 

Jose Mourinho has said he has a future in management and vowed not to talk about the reasons behind his sacking by Manchester United.

"We could speak about so many good things, we could speak about not as good, but that's not me."

Hahahahahaha

 

Besides his tactics and style of play being found out and outdated, his ego still remains too big to recognize the truth.

No doubt Mourinho was great at one point and due to his name and reputation he’ll always have a job offer with some big club.

But overall, Mourinho is the past.

 

As much as I hate the guy he was obviously an elite manager for a good 10+ years but he's never really recovered from that shiter of a season with Chelsea in 2015-16, and to be honest I don't see him ever getting it back. Even when he missed out on league titles in the past his teams would run the eventual winners really close and you'd have to earn that trophy. Nowadays he's finding himself 11 points adrift of 4th and it's not even Christmas yet. He might win a few cups here and there but the aura went a few years ago, all that's left is an annoying, whining cunt.

 

I'm still confident that Pochettino will be at Man Utd next season. He's done a great job at Spurs but you feel that he's gone as far as he can with them. That's down to Spurs not showing enough ambition as they haven't splashed the cash and that's frustrated Poch, as well as frustrations towards their new ground. If Spurs are to keep hold of him then he needs money to spend and you just feel that that's not gonna happen, thus, if he goes to Man Utd, he will be given money to spend.

 

Usually it's sad to see once great individuals in basically any aspect of sport or sometimes even the arts lose their touch but not Mourinho. My opinions on him I think have been expressed enough so no need to rehash them.

I won't deny what he has achieved but I think greatness in managers is very hard to quantify.

The clearest way is if course results. There's not a lot of context in that it however. The majority of managers that weren't great players themselves have to start off at a small club. When they improve the record of that particular club then they might get a chance at managing a bigger one. Mathematically some of the smaller clubs have to have a surge once in a while. Is that because of the manager? Maybe? With the gap between the rich and poor pretty much all they have to do is maintain the status quo and they're doing OK. That should be a relatively simple job, especially within a domestic league. Sure you'll have to deal with bigger egos and more scrutiny but football wise you kind of have it made. Not only do you start out with much better players but a budget to go out and get different ones. (and from your direct competitors usually below you)

The huge clubs generally continue to win trophies or come right near regardless of who is in charge.

 

Not to defend Spurs because they're clearly not poor when compared to clubs like ours, Jimmy, but I don't think it's a lack of "ambition" as such, more a lack of money to be able to risk spending on a player who may or may not be the one who takes you to that next level. The market is insanely inflated these days.

 

Well they did sell both Bale and Modric. With that said once Real Madrid want you it's pretty much a done deal and you'd be "hampering their career" by not selling them.

 

His success with Porto, and to a lesser extent Inter, is absolutely worthy of praise imo. Weird thing is he won the biggest prize in club football with his two weakest sides, and always fell short at the clubs where he had unlimited cash.

 

I think Spurs have a kind of agreement with Real Madrid where they both get first dibs on players who might be for sale from either club. Basically it means Spurs got taken for absolute mugs and Real can just take their best players off of them.

 

Yes, that's well documented. Inter and Porto aren't massive clubs but smaller ones than them have won the Euro Cup/CL too. How much credit do you give to the manager?

I'm no expert in footballing philosophy, psychology or tactics but I'm not aware of Mourinho brining something new to the game where he was ahead of the game.

 

I think EVERYBODY has that deal with Real Madrid.

I'm sick of this "dream club" bullshit. Sometimes I wish I was the owner of a team offering a young player an extremely lucrative contract to kick a ball. I'd ask them out of curiosity who their "dream club was to play for one day". If they gave an answer that was anything other than the club who they're about to play for I'd put down the pen and say go sign for them then as this meeting is over.

 

I consider both massive clubs, personally, and far bigger historically than Chelsea, for example. Obviously the context is in terms of financial power, in which both didn't really have any business winning those trophies considering who they were up against.

I do agree that he wasn't particularly innovative in what he did, but he was very tactically astute. Much like Wenger though, he hasn't been able to adapt when the game evolved, which is kind of ironic considering the animosity he had towards Arsene with all that "specialist in failure" bullshit.

 

But Poch's hands are tied by not having that money to spend and not being able to take that risk. You'd rather be told that you can have money to spend rather than not. Spurs didn't sign a single player at the start of this season. That must be massively frustrating for him and he deserves massive credit for guiding Spurs to the position they're currently in, in both the Premier League and Champions League. It's also down to Poch having confidence in the academy and promoting youth to the first team. This is exactly what Man Utd fans would love from their new manager. Man Utd could be the perfect fit for Pochettino.

 

Right, so we're basically back to praising him for titles he won many years ago and mainly the one with Porto. That's deserving of all the reverence?

 

Who would y’all say are the top managers around today? To Whiskey’s point I agree that it can be hard to quantify even with results because you still need the right mix of talent to make it work.

 

I get your point, and like I said he hasn't done anything really all that praiseworthy for a while now. But yeah, essentially his body of work with the likes of Porto and Inter, as well as the stuff with the monied clubs is credit in the bank and will guarantee him at least a couple more shots with some big name clubs in the future.

I actually agree with you that he's lost his touch for good now, but we know how football works.

 

Solskjaer's first game in charge of Man Utd is against...Cardiff this weekend.

 

That's a good question. People will say Guardiola and he's obviously a good tactician but it's impossible to gauge how good he actually is because he's taken on three of the easiest jobs in world football. Compared to his predecessors and successors at the same jobs he still stands up but I'm not sold on him yet.

I love Klopp and his philosophy, he's making big strides but he needs to get some trophies in the Liverpool cabinet.

I'd maybe argue that Simeone is the best, it's not pretty to watch a lot of the time but when you consider the resources he has and who he is up against, it's nothing short of incredible.

Even though his side just went out of the CL and it looks unlikely they're going to break the Juventus stranglehold domestically, I'd still have Ancelotti right up there.

In short - right now it's Simeone for me.

 

That's what irritates me the most I guess. We've talked about it before and Puerto Rock brought it up again in an earlier post. How/why do keep getting these cushy posts? Experience? At getting fired repeatedly? I know in part with football you're hired to get fired but burning bridges and being a cunt is another story.

Mourinho could take out a front page ad in a Manchester paper holding up a middle finger to the city and take a dump in the middle of Old Trafford and clubs out there would still be lining up to give him millions of dollars to manage their team.

 

If they win that game does he get a 4 year 60 million dollar contract?

 

I agree completely with this. Even taking out Mourinho who has at least experienced success in the past, there is a merry-go-round of shite British managers - Pulis, Pardew, Allardyce, Hughes etc who continue to get hired for Premier League managerial positions despite not winning a fucking thing and taking clubs down or playing dire football. It makes no sense at all but yeah, that's football unfortunately.