Linares is shot

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Dog Jones, Jan 19, 2019.

  1. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Just got KO'd by Cano, the same Cano that was KO'd by a shot Morales
     
  2. BazookaJ

    BazookaJ WBC Champion

    I didn’t expect much from him after the epic ass whippin Loma gave him. And he was always chinny.
     
  3. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    He's not shot. He jsut gave hell to Loma in his fight before. Just that he was always very chinny
     
  4. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    He has a worse chin than Terry Norris
     
  5. BazookaJ

    BazookaJ WBC Champion

    He’s probably shot. He gave a lot and took a lot in the Loma fight and he’s had a long career.
     
  6. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    He was never particularly good to begin with.
     
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  7. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

  8. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Could be lack of motivation after losing the big one, it happens to many guys
     
  9. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I have said it before but to me, linares is one of those Mark Breland and Zab Judah type of guys. If you are a puncher or you can bully them, you can get rid of them quick. For the boxer types they are very difficult to beat
     
  10. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

    You don’t get to just spout unsubstantiated bullshit just because YOU personally dislike someone. So based on Linares’ record and me having witnessed him beat several quality guys I’m afraid I must insist that you explain your bullshit opinion.

    Not on my watch buddy, not on my watch.
     
  11. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Linares chin is terrible. A lot of these punches were nothing-punches
     
  12. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Shows how mediocre Loma's resume is for a guy so high on the p4p list.
     
  13. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Oh STFU.

    Linares was never that good. Talented offensively, but always extremely fragile and always a shitty defense.

    People who hyped him were probably enamored by how smooth his combinations were, but below that was a very very flawed, limited fighter.

    Linares was always trash, IDGAF what anybody says.
     
  14. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Exactly.
     
  15. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I don't see Linares being Loma's signature win. Plus, he was the #1 ranked lightweight at the fight time whereas Loma was clearly the smaller guy
     
  16. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    exactly. You can't criticize loma resume. He fiught everybody he had to fight (bar maybe Mickey), and changed weight classes to get bigger fights. Sure he doesn't have a real marquee win yet, but he did as much as he could
     
  17. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Not a question of blame. Bottom line is, for a top 2-3 p4p fighter, his resume is weak.
     
  18. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Let's not pretend that the other p4p contenders have great resume. Crawford best win is Postol (lol), Garcia don't have any marquee win either. The only one that has a great resume is Clenelo, and we can all see that Loma is a vetter talent
     
  19. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Who's pretending that? I'm not. Crawford's resume is below par too if you ask me.
     
  20. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Difference being Crawford is probably the most criticized fighter in all of boxing.

    Its blasphemy to criticize Loma.
     
  21. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Loma resume blow Crawford resume out of the water. Isn't even close
     
  22. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

    You seem to be arguing all time great versus trash while leaving very little wiggle room in between. Linares is a very good fighter and his resume and record say as much. Does he have holes? Of course, nobody is arguing he was perfect but you seem to be arguing that since he wasn’t perfect he was obviously never any good and that just isn’t accurate.
     
  23. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    He's not good in the sense that a win over him is nothing special among top fighters.
     
  24. BazookaJ

    BazookaJ WBC Champion

    It speaks to Loma’s pedigree that they guys he beats are relegated. He’s fought like 8 guys that would be break out legitimizing wins for any contender.
     
  25. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Guys who legitimize prospects as break-out contenders is what champions face. Lol. The guy has belts and calls himself a champion. You think he's going above and beyond by fighting contenders? For the number of fights he has, his resume is outstanding. And considering his loss to Salido was in his second fight, it is understandable. But the fact he's had so few fights shouldn't help his case when it comes to p4p lists.
     
  26. BazookaJ

    BazookaJ WBC Champion

    He’s beating legit contenders which is all a champ can do. He’s beat like 8 guys that would be signature wins for most boxers. It’s not his fault he’s an elite guy and there’s no superfight there for him. His resume isn’t thin at all.
     
  27. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

    Maybe not now, that he’s moved up into a division that’s more a disadvantage for him and that he’s a bit long in the tooth. But I was talking about his career as a whole and in that vein the guy was a very good fighter.
     
  28. salaco

    salaco Undisputed Champion

    Linares has been blown out early by nobodies previously. Being caught cold in nothing fights is a clear feature in his resume, as are questions around his durability. Doesn't change the fact that when he was on, he had very nice footwork and great combination punching, don't need to inspect resumes to confirm what you can clearly see in fights against solid contenders like Campbell, Gesta, even Crolla. He is or was somewhere between a good and very good, more gifted than your average contenders but with fatal flaws that kept him out of elite mention.
     
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  29. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    This!
     

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