Wilder vs Fury rematch is on

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  1. cdogg187

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    Fury should go for a stoppage this time. Obviously, not be reckless about it, but when he's boxing Wilder he needs to follow up and be more aggressive.

    Wilder is too dangerous to just let him hang around
     
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    None of the big fights are gonna happen now. And AJ n fury will both fight in the US in front of crowds a quarter the size at 4am gmt. Boxing is like a self destructive asshole who goes on a bender and gets arrested every time things start to go his way
     
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    Fury’s Ducking the Wilder Rematch.

    Fury's Dubious Decision & Why Wilder Won't Accept Arum's Offer

    As Team Fury was Finalizing the Deal w/Top Rank and ESPN, They were SITTING on a 50/50 Deal for a RE w/Wilder the Entire Time. A MORE Than Generous Split Considering Wilder Stood to Make 60/40 in a Purse Bid.

    Making Matters Worse, After Fury Signs w/Top Rank, Arum Makes an “Offer” to Wilder for the RE. Problem is, it was a 5 Fight Deal w/No Guarantee of WHEN He’d Actually Face Fury.

    Now Fury’s Playing the “You’ll Have to Ask My Promoters, They Make the Fights” Card, When Asked About a Wilder RE.

    Even Though REED Feels Fury WON the 1st Fight, Seems Clear Those 2 Knockdowns Spooked the Shit Out of Him, Particularly the Last One.








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    Fucking Arum
     
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    Yep, he Only Acquired Fury to PREVENT Him from Facing Wilder...

    And w/Arum and Hearn Having Rival Streaming Services, Good Luck EVER Seeing Joshua vs. Fury...Just When Heavyweight Boxing was Starting to Get GOOD Again, This...






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    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    lololololz
    First droppage wasn't shit, the second one he got up and started peppering Wilder.

    No-one got 'spooked the shit' out of.
     
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    I can just hear the Grim Reaper laughing at boxing fans.

    He shoulda BEEN removed Arum and King from the Earth, yet here they still are...
     
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    It's all a fucking joke.

    Boxing was beginning to gain so much momentum 2 years ago, and seemed on the verge of overtaking MMGay.

    But greed and politics will ALWAYS ALWAYS prevent boxing from ruling sports.
     
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    Yep.

    Boxing is its OWN Worst Enemy. And No Matter How Much We as Fans are Willing to OVERPAY For the Best Possible Matchups, Promoters Will Do What’s Best for THEM Over the Greater Good of The Sport, Fans and Their Own Fignters.







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    I hate to state the obvious, but HBO leaving was not good for the sport.

    Canelo and AJ should have HBO contracts right now.

    NO casuals are watching fucking DAZN, and I'd be interested to know what their true subscriber numbers are.

    These promoters are more greedy than intelligent.

    A niche sport like boxing was NOT ready for a streaming platform like DAZN.
     
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    Spare REED Your Lame, Dull Attempts at Trolling Dude. :rolleyes:

    For the Last Fight Wilder Was Guaranteed 4mil, Fury 3mil. Fury’s Take was Right at 43%.

    Team Fury WILLINGLY SAT On and Never Responded to a 50/50 Offer for the RE, Which Would’ve Undoubtedly OUTSOLD The 1st Fight.

    If the 1st Droppage Wasn’t Shit, WHY Was Fury on the Fucking Canvas? Worldwide, Boxing Media has PRAISED Fury for Rising From the 2nd Knockdown. Simply Put, it was INCREDIBLE. UNfuckingFATHOMABLE.

    In the Immediate Aftermath, Fury’s Own Trainer Came Out and Spoke of Possibly Moving On from Wilder, in Lieu of an Immediate RE. Motherfuckers WIFE Spoke on How Stressful it was from Ringside and How She Didn’t Want Her Husband Facing Wilder Again.

    Do the Fucking Math Troll. They’re Referencing the 2 Knockdowns and Collectively they were ALL SPOOKED.






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    Fans are getting less and less. What passes for a main event these days is barely a PPV undercard in the past. Nothing but showcases and hype. And it's only going to get worse I think.
     
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    1 - Back of the head. Three shots: one missed, one just clipped his cheek, third on back of the head. Tons of fighters have gone down from those types of punches and its usually not because of a lb-per-sq-" result.

    2 - Of course they did. Because it was the 12th round. Fatigue - no-one really recovers like that from a full punch at that stage of a fight. Even Ali and Holmes looked more shaken than Fury.
    (Furthermore, all it takes is for one dumb idiot to liken it to "he got up like The Undertaker!!!" and everyone's jumping on that bandwagon.
    Well, no he didn't because that's nothing resembling The Undertaker getting up, ever.)

    3 - Post the interview

    4 - Who cares what his wife says. Or thinks?

    5 - I've 'done the math'.
    You're just pissed because I take potshots at your hero Spence Jr for juicing like crazy and not enrolling in VADA.
    Now that he has, and is being tested, we can put that one aside and move on.


    REEDisms, REEDisms.
    They're very quirky...
     
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    I don't think Fury is scared of Wilder.

    At the end of the day, money talks. ESPN has more money to throw at a guy than Showtime does.

    The fighters arent to blame. The networks and promoters are to blame for not working with eachother.

    Btw, dont underestimate this fact - John Skipper used to run ESPN, and now he runs DAZN. And I dont think he left ESPN on good terms.

    They "claimed" it was because of substance abuse issues, but I dont buy it. I think something else happened. Something that prompted Bob Iger (CEO of Disney) to can Skipper.
     
  17. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    Furthermore, it's not trolling when you disagree with sonething when facts weren't displayed or showing the 'Oohhh-Aahhhh' enthusiasm of boxing fans who are too easily pleased or impressed with current state of the sport.
     
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    He isn't and never was scared.
    Fury is the most honest guy out there and he's already spilled-out his heart and soul on what he's really scared of.


    And it certainly isn't a basketball player with limited boxing ability and 'snappy punching power'

    Can you imagine how people would be now if Ali baulked at a rematch with Foreman and went after Lyle/Wepner/Bugner/Frazier?

    "Foreman's power spooked him"
     
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    I doubt Wilder strikes fear into the heart of Fury. Even with the two knockdowns, Fury basically dominated.

    The AJ-Wilder apple cart is still on the table, and Fury vs AJ is a huge fight too. I think this comes down to money and business.

    Odds are these two will fight sooner or later anyway.
     
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    Fury isn't afraid of any man.

    Bear in mind, he went to the USA, took on a guy that was undefeated and vaunted, and basically beat the guy and got robbed.

    Nobody in their right mind would be in a rush back across the Atlantic to get robbed again especially where it involved being struck in the head very hard.
     
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    Mrs. Fury...There's a Video Within the Article as Well...

    ‘It was so stressful, it was horrible!’: Tyson Fury’s wife rules out Deontay Wilder rematch

    Ben Davison....

    Fury’s trainer wants Wilder to face Joshua next, rather than rematch the ‘Gypsy King’

    REED Couldn't Care Less WHAT You Say About Spence Bruh...Seriously...There Was NEVER Any Legs Under the Steroid Accusations to Begin w/…

    REED Called You a Troll Because You're 1 of those "Boxing is Dying" Assholes...Constantly Denigrating the Quality of Today's Boxing, Constantly Waxing Poetic on the "Good Ol Days"...Even After a GOOD, ENTERTAINING Scrap, You're Here for the Sole Purpose of SHITTING on Everyone Else's Experience...

    REED Called You a Troll Because YOU'VE LITERALLY PM'ed REED Stating You Like to Wind Posters Up JUST for a Reaction...REED Called You a Troll Because YOU TOLD REED You're a Troll, Troll...

    As You Were....






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    Sayeth the Poster Who Felt Lennox Lewis OWED Vitali a RE...






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    Reed why are you trying to redefine the Fury vs Wilder situation?

    Wilder lost.

    They gave him a draw.

    Fury went back to England and signed a monster deal with ESPN which was designed not to avoid Wilder, but keep Fury busy, because like Tapia, Fury needs to stay busy for his mental health.
     
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    REED Ain’t Trying to Redefine Shit. YOUR Ever Present Bias Prevents You From Seeing Things for WHAT the Are.

    Right After the Fight AND Today, REED Stands By His Belief That Fury WON the Fight. When and Where Has REED Deviated From That?

    It’s Pretty Fucking Obvious Fury DOESNT Want an Immediate RE w/Wilder. Offered a Larger Slice of the Pie Than the 1st Bout, an EVENfuckingSPLIT, No Less! Against a Guy MOST Think he Beat Already.

    Who WOULDN’T Accept Purse Parity in a Situation as Such? A Man Whose Wife and Trainer DONT Fancy an Immediate RE, That’s Who.

    Arum’s “Offer” to Wilder Only Made it That Much MORE Obvious. 5 Fight Deal w/NO Guarantee of When He’d Actually Share a Ring w/Fury Again?

    You SEE the Writing on the Wall, You’re Just Conveniently Doing a Ray Charles Impersonation.





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    Fury's attitude is that he's beaten Wlad and Wilder. He pulled out of a rematch with Wlad too. Why? Cos he tasted Bad Wlad's power?

    No. Cos he is unpredictable and unreliable. Does his own thing.
     
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    No, By his OWN Admission, Fury Didn’t Rematch Wlad Due to the PRESSURE of Being World Champion. Fury Said This HIMSELF.

    Along w/That, How Many Times Did “Bad” Wlad Drop Fury?

    Regarding the Wilder RE, You’re Conveniently Entertaining EVERY Possibility But the OBVIOUS One. A Luxury You NEVER Afforded Lennox Lewis.






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    First two points, fair.

    Spence issue was always an issue because it was all over the Internet, and not just from Forum posters.

    Trollism: doesn't include General Forum!

    Glad we cleared that up, and that you understand, Mr Angry of REEDsville.
     
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    Shouldn't the guy who won the first fight get more than parity? You're acting like the offer is generous.
     
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    None. That's just the point. Fury failed to rematch Wlad, who barely hurt him, and he failed to rematch Fury, who did hurt him.

    And........he rematched John McDermott, who had given him a hard time and hurt him.

    And......he rematched Dereck Chisorah, who hadn't given him a hard time.

    And.......he wanted a fight with David Haye, who hits hard.

    There's no identifiable pattern of Fury avoiding people because they hit him hard.
     
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    For Fury, Wilder is a case of "been there, done that, fuck it".

    Fury is only going to be better in the rematch.

    What next?

    "Charlie Zelenoff hasn't been around Wilder recently cos he tasted that power the first time".

    Please.
     

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