At 154?? What age was Oscar when he fought Vargas.......2002..........so he's about 30 then. I dunno........Oscar did indeed handle a damaged Vargas but it's so hard to pick anyone off Oscars record that fights in that Fat-Burst style. Then again, Oscar is fast like Khan and Fatty looked poor there in stretches. Yeah I Can see Oscar lead him on a merry dance for a bit. Provided Oscar times his Oyster-Coffee thing right this time.
there was 18 monthes between the jacobs fight and the rematch with alvarez. i dont consider it the same golovkin.
Jacobs by TKO 5.....Canelo face n conquered(somewhat/not really/nicely paid judges) his fear in GGG...now he's cruising in life wearing Kiki De Montparnasse lingerie, stiletto Christian Loudoutin ...... The ginger De La Hoya....
In fairness, it was a long time ago and Pirog's career was ended abruptly by severe back trouble so we don't really have a great sense of his actual quality as a fighter... he was undefeated
Chance would be a fine thing. Unfortunately he also has designer pills and designer lotions and he probably took some........
I've heard several in the boxing media refer Canelo as one of the best fighters of this generation. He's without question overrated.
Not Only That, but Jacobs Had Just Lost his Grandmother (His Primary Care Giver) During Fight Week... Andre Rozier's ALWAYS Said Danny Shouldn't Have Fought That Night AND the Motherfucker was Diagnosed w/Cancer Not Looooooooooong Afterwards... If NATHAN Else, GGG-Jacobs Showed There was MORE to Danny Than the Pirog Fight Revealed... REED
Danny has a decent chin. He's hardly James Toney in the chin category, but he's not Amir Khan either. But Canelo can hurt him.
The Game Has CHANGED McDogg... Back in the Day, Boxing's MARQUEE Fighter Was Usually its BEST Fighter Pound for Pound, Simultaneously...It's STILL The Case Every Now and Then in Contemporary Boxing Also (Floyd)... But Dela Hoya Broke that Mold...Good Looking Kid, Olympic Gold Medalist, Mother Tragically Passes Away and the Kid Can Actually FIGHT?!...REED Can't Stand Bob Arum, but His Promotion of DeLa Hoya was EXPERT...Hard to Fathom What he Could've Done BETTER, Honestly...Dela Moved the Needle w/Mainstream Fight Fans, Hardcore Fight Fans and MEXICAN Fight Fans in Particular... All the While, Dela was NEVER the Best Fighter in the World Pound for Pound, but he Fought BETTER Guys Than Anyone Else of His Era, His Bouts Became EVENTS and a Blueprint was Formed... To REED's Knowledge "Cindo de Mayo" and "Mexican Independence Day" Weekends Became the 2 Biggest Dates on the Yearly Boxing Calendar BECAUSE of Dela Hoya.... Canelo's the 2nd Wave of a Tried and True Method Bruh...Whether he EVER Achieves # 1 Pound for Pound Status or Not, Canelo's Already a Certified STAR in Boxing... REED
Prime for Prime, Dela was More Athletic and Naturally Gifted, But Canelo was More RELAXED and CEREBRAL... Dela was More Antsy, Prone to Overthinking HOW He Should Fight, Replacing Trainers and Shit... REED
DLH was better than Canelo in a P4P sense. Not even debatable. The 140 pound DLH was on a different level than Canelo.
Canelo wins at 160. Oscar wasn't shit at middleweight. At 154, I'd take the Oscar that beat Vargas to win by UD over Canelo. In this matchup, we don't have to worry about Canelo getting a gift, since he's up against the man who gets him those gifts.
DLH got some benefit from the judges for sure but he's also on the losing end of two of the more contentious decisions in recent history
Mosley-DLH 2 is hardly one of history's most contentious decisions. It was actually a close fight, and while Oscar has every right to think he won, it was hardly some Lewis-Holy 1 type robbery. Let's not forget the HORRIFIC gift Oscar got over Felix Sturm. Sturm won about 9-10 rounds. One of the worst robberies ever.
"Two of the more contentious decisions in recent history" That means there was a lot of controversy over who won and that it happened not that long ago What are you arguing against?
REED is Convinced Certain Words TRIGGER Brother X to the Point he Completely Zones Out and DOESN'T Finish REEDing the Entirety of Posts...Then he Argues a Point the Poster NEVER Made... Just Yesterday Dude Got Defensive When REED Called Canelo "1 of the 5-10 Best Fighters in the World", and Listed 5 Guys He Thinks Are Better... REED
X has Xplosive reactions to certain stimuli, for sure "This guy has good handspeed" "BULLSHIT! ROY JONES HAD ELITE HANDSPEED, THIS GUY IS SLOW AS FUCK!"
You point out some guy has a somewhat similar haircut to Duran. "What are you talking about? Those guys aren't even close! Duran would have totally demolished the guy. Completely different level of fighter"
X is cool, but he's a very emotional dude. Once one of his trigger words is pronounced (canelo for example), it's pretty impossible to have a discussion with him