Wilder vs Breazele

March, May, Proven?

What, that Breazeale Was More Accomplished, Deserving of a Big Fight and Yes, PROVEN Than Schwarz in March and May?

CONGRATUfuckingLATIONS.



REED

 

I will keep going at this.

In March of this year, you actively SHAT on Schwarz as an opponent.

Then I SHAT on Brazeel in May.

YET, you, oh chronologially challenged one, say that your shitting on Schwarz, which predated my shitting on Brezeel, was a RESPONSE to my shitting on Brazeel.

How the FUCK can that which comes BEFORE be a RESPONSE to that which comes AFTER???

 

Solid contender.

 

Man, wilder has to rate among the hardest puncher ever. The number of 1 punch ko he has is incredible

 

Proper knockouts as well, as in separated from their senses. Scary shit.

 

He doesn't just punch hard per se. It's very powerful, but thrown in such a fashion and speed as to maximise it's effect. Guys don't see it.

He punches like a cobra strikes.

It will stand him in good stead while he is young.

 

Robert Helenius was sparring with Wilder before this bout.

According to him, Wilder is much more difficult to fight than it would seem, he said Wilder's right hand is really difficult to see

 

Well yes I was considering reviewing my opinion until I saw it was supported by Robert Helenius.

 

REED Shat on Schwarz as an Opponent for Fury IN LIEU of Wilder II.

Excuse the Fuck Out of REED for Being Put Off by THE Biggest Heavyweight RE In Recent Memory Being TABLED For Fury-Schwarz...If YOU Feel Fury-Schwarz is a BETTER Matchup, Then it Truly SUCKS to Be You Bruh...

YOU Shat on Breazeale for Lord Knows Why While NEVER Speaking of Schwarz One Way or the Other. Are You Suggesting Schwarz is an ANY Way Analogous to Breazeale, as Accomplished, Proven or FITTING for a Major Televised Fight as Breazeale Was? By NO Means is Breazeale Great or Anything MORE than a Gate Keeper (@ Best), but He HAS Done More than Schwarz Has, and it's NOT Even Close...

As REED Types, Breazeale is Ranked 11 by Boxrec (AFTER Getting his Ass Whupped Last Night)...Guess Where Schwarz Ranks Irish? 57!!!...

March, May, Blah, Blah, Blah that's IMMATERIAL Bullshit and Not the Least Bit Substantive...NATHAN More than Diversionary Bullshit and a Flimsy Ass Way for YOU to Act as if You've "Proven" or "Won" Something, Which You Havent…A PROXY Win, Basically...

Are You Saying Tom Schwarz is BETTER, More Proven and More Fitting to Face Fury Than Breazeale Was to Face Wilder? If So, PLEASE Back that Up w/Something of MERIT (And No, Childish Ass "March-May" References Don't Qualify)….If You AREN'T Saying This, Then Kindly SHUTthefuckUP So REED Can Stop Wasting Time and Words on the 11th and 57th "Best" Heavyweights in the World...







REED

 

Future Hall of Famer w/20+ Title Defenses...







REED

 

It's Why the Incessant Bitching About his (LACK of ) Skill is TIRESOME...

@ the End of the Day Boxing is about RESULTS...And Few if Any have EVER Gotten the Consistent Results Wilder Has...

So What if he Doesn't Possess the Nuance and Technical Wherewithal of Paulie Malignaggi or Cory Spinks, Wilder's ALREADY Had a Considerably More Formidable and Memorable Boxing Career...






REED

 

Yeah, he's a scary dude, even if he looks shitty most of the time. Also, I've said it before, but contrarily to a lot of puncher, he carries his power late. And he has incredible self belief, never stops believing that he'll eventually get to you.


A bit off topic, and not to nitpick, but Paulie had pretty bad technique and no nuance to his game. It was all about his speed and his jab, but he wasn't a clever tecnical fighter

 

You cannot deal with the fact that you said you said nothing about Schwarz until I said something about Breazeale.

The opposite has now been proven to be true.

Breazeale was a very very poor opponent and that has been proven.

 

What Impresses REED the Most is Wilder's Power is There 1-12...






REED

 

Yeah he carries it throughout the whole fight, although his style enables him to do that to some extent, for such an explosive puncher he's really patient.

 

Excuse the Fuck Out of REED for Not Recalling EVERY Word Typed or Uttered in the Last 2 1/2 Months, About a Guy he'd NEVER 1nce Heard Of Until he Signed a Contract to Face Fury...Happy Now, Semantic Whore???...

Even Now, You STILL Can't Say Shit about Tom Schwarz. Why, Because there's NATHAN Redeemable to Say about Him...And You Won't DARE Answer the Questions REED Posed to you Because You KNOW You're Not Being the LEAST Bit Objective Here...

Considering Joshua and Fury Are Fighting NEXTfuckingMONTH,Wilder's ALREADY KO'ed Luis Ortiz and There was a Built-in Back Story w/Breazeale, Dominick Was NOT a Bad Replacement Opponent @ All...Again, Wilder's INTENT was to Face Tyson Fury Again Last Night...

But Leave it to YOU to Not Only ABSOLVE Fury from ANY and ALL Blame in Pissing Off the Most Anticipated Heavyweight RE Since Probably Tyson-Holyfield II, You're ALSO BITCHING about Wilder's Plan-B...

Typical Burning the Candle from BOTH Ends Bullshit...That's Why You're Clinging to March-May Nonsense, Because You have NATHAN Else to Offer in Your Defense...Literally...






REED

 

But Leave it to YOU to Not Only ABSOLVE Fury from ANY and ALL Blame in Pissing Off the Most Anticipated Heavyweight RE Since Probably Tyson-Holyfield II, You're ALSO BITCHING about Wilder's Plan-B...

Did no such thing.

 

Of Course You Did...

"He Already Beat Wilder Once and Got Robbed. Why Risk Being Screwed Again?"...

If You're Saying You've NEVER Spoken Words to That Particular Effect, You're a LIAR as Well as a Semantic Whore...







REED

 

lmao not even top 20 @ heavyweight

 

Page 1 Post # 27...

Fury, who beat Wilder when they met, is being punished for declining to repeat a process which deprives him of due process, everytime, namely fight Wilder.


Is it March or is it May?...




REED

 

Page 2, Post # 53...

Fury has the solidest grounds ever not to take an immediate Rematch. He got robbed first time out. Why get robbed again?


Was that March or May Motherfucker???...






REED

 

You are part-quoting.

I said, in full, taken as a whole...........that the concept of Fury ducking out of the fight on the sole basis that he was scurred for Wilders power, was horsehit. I provide evidence of this in the fact that Fury took the fight with Wilder in the first place, survived one knockdown to keep fighting, and fighting to win, and clowned Wilder after getting dropped early in the 12th, and actually won every second of the 12th after the knockdown.

Accordingly, the claim that Fury is physically afraid is dismissed as bullshit. He fought back hard and did not fight negatively after the knockdowns and contemptuously dropped his hands in the 12th.

Secondly, nobody can be blamed, due regard being had to boxings nature, of refusing to partake, or being loth to partake, in an event where they were effectively debarred from winning in all circumstances where they deserve to win.

Thirdly, I alluded to Fury having such lucrative options as due regard being had to points 2 and 4, he could very easily be induced to leave the Wilder fight alone.

Fourthly, the Wilder fight will be there later.

So I never "Absolved" Fury from anything. There are always certain agreements required to make a fight and only one of those did Wilder show any flexibility on, that being money. The key element in all of this is that Fury does not want to take risks where he is precluded reward and that is his right.

We have Deontay, who is dangerous, we have the USA, which is BENT and corrupt, and we have Fury who has already fought Wilder once and now has better options.

Therefore, Filth Flarn Filth, no rematch, until it's necessary, said Fury.

What's he supposed to do, agree to the same shit all over again so you got an entertaining fucking weekend?

 

Agreed 100%.

Do I appreciate high end technique and skill, the punching technique of Joe Louis, the defense and countering of Duran, the overall fine tuned craft of Floyd? Of course I do, as a hardcore boxing fan.

But ultimately it is about results, and if it works it works. Wilder may not look pretty, but whatever it is he does sure as fuck works.

Personally I think Fury was jobbed badly, but Wilder is officially undefeated, and actually has a legit chance of getting to 50-0 like Floyd.

 

It was May.

What's your point caller?

Why get robbed again?

Are fighters obliged to get robbed?

Is Fury repsonsible for getting robbed?

The people who nixed the rematch were the people who nixed the cards. The people who nixed the rematch were the people who didn't want it in a neutral venue. The people who nixed the rematch were the people who didn't want to get fucked again and the people who nixed the rematch were the people who were prepared to pay to see DW fight DB this weekend and were prepared to see TF fight TS next.

In other words, the rematch got killed by a variety of different factors and the vast majority of them were unrelated to Fury.

I cannot absolve Fury of blame for nixing the rematch because he didn't fucking nix it.

It died on it's own feet.

 

Again, very much agreed. Paulie's skill and technique is vastly overstated.

As you said, he was quick, had a good jab, and also to be fair was very tough with heart. But that's it. His technique was average, and there was nothing particularly clever or crafty about him, he was quite basic actually. Even his defence was kinda average, he was plenty hittable. Given his lack of power too at elite level, he was a real overachiever.

 

Fury is refusing to fight Wilder because he got robbed {and has better options, and already won, and and and}


Whose fault was it he got robbed? His own?

If he is not to blame for not taking a rematch, how can I absolve him of the blame?

 

Look at it this way Reed:

Is Fury exclusively afraid of Wilder physically, but happy about everything else {money, Judges, etc}

or

Is he afraid that he will have to absorb punishment in a futile task which is futile through no fault of his own?

If it is exclusively the former, then Fury is to blame for there being no rematch.

If it is exclusively the latter , or any combination of the former and the latter, then Fury is not guilty of killing the rematch.

If he's not guilty, he can't be blamed.

I think the prevailing predominating mentality in the USA is that you take what you are given and if you walk away with something, however much you deserve it, the USA has first refusal on your ass next time.

How very Trumpian.

 

You, you mean that it wasn't possible???

 

Irish,

You're ATTEMPTING to Sully a Very CLEAR Point REED is Making, Just as You Turned a Breazeale-Schwarz Comparison into Some LAME March-May Bullshit..

But Leave it to YOU to Not Only ABSOLVE Fury from ANY and ALL Blame in Pissing Off the Most Anticipated Heavyweight RE Since Probably Tyson-Holyfield II, You're ALSO BITCHING about Wilder's Plan-B...

You Claimed You Had "Done No Such Thing", Yet w/YOUR OWN WORDS, REED Showed You Otherwise...Now You're Trying to Super Glue Humpty-Dumpty Back Together Again, But the Code of Your "Argument" Has Been Cracked Bruh...

You DON'T Blame Fury @ ALL for Bypassing the Immediate RE...And in the Next Breath, You're BITCHING about Wilder's Back Up Opponent for the Immediate RE w/Fury...






REED