AJ "Sways" His Way Back Into REED's Good Graces. JOSHUA-RUIZ Thread.

No offense, but if it took 8 years for your prediction to validate, you don't deserve much credit. Everybody that know boxing knew AJ was full of flaws, but he still has a lot of upside, and he did beat some top guys.

 

What??

So we have to identify the very exact moment of his demise?

Amir Khan had a shit chin but he got past murderous Maidana..........and fell apart vs Danny Garcia.........I guess anyone who didn;t call it Garcia KO4 is a dilettante?

It didn't take 8 years for any predictions to validate, they were always valid, it just took 8 years, and it's 7, actually, he was an amateur this time 7 years ago....for those predictions to mature and precipitate fully.

If I want to save $7000, and I put away $1000 a year for 7 years, does that mean I am doing something wrong until the very last $1000 goes in?

Of course not.

Bit by bit, AJ has inched towards this night.

 

Are there any photos of Hearn's face as he watches his cash cow getting molested by a fat Mexican?

 

No. But if you were claiming that he sucked 8 years ago, your prediction wasn't exactly valid since he did achieved some degree of success.

As I said before, everybody that knows boxing knew AJ was/is easy picking for Wilder and Fury. still, let's not pretend that he is a total bum

 

He's not a total bum but "total bum" is such a relative concept.

Sometimes success accentuates the mediocrity.

He could not have been a title contender in any other era so quickly.

I reiterate.......he won that IBF title off a series of events he had nothing to do with.

 

To be honest..........I couldn't care less about that cunt. We are in kind of deep shit after last night with the ructions..........and Hearn is coming on about a rematch this Winter in Cardiff.......very interesting he won't go near Manchester or London.

 

If AJ wins the rematch the British boxing could end up with their version of a ali Frazier like trilogy

 

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no.

 

AJ lost because he didn't use his abs enough

 

Aj may have lost because he came off gear.

 

But even when he was on it(Assuming that’s the case), he was still gassing in every fight.

His cardio is just that bad, it seems.

 

I’d still take Joshua over Fury. Fury doesn’t have the offense to make him hesitant and Joshua could just bumble forward and outwork him. Fury couldn’t sweep rounds against Wilder just because he was busier and Joshua is a shorter, crisper puncher.

 

oh boy. AJ would get humiliated by Fury

 

Klitschko should come back and fight Ruiz.

 

Fury is the best heavyweight hands down. I just feel he’d outmaneuver and out speed Joshua.

 

Congratulations to Andy Ruiz.
Embarrassing for Boxing....

 

Wilder would KO either of these guys within 3

 

He obviously sucks,..and so does Ruiz, the division and the sport at this point

 

Watch: Mike Costello's brilliant commentary of Anthony Joshua-Andy Ruiz Jr third round - BBC Sport

That poser David Haye, desperate to grab selfies...

MTF

 

Irish has pretty much responded as I would have. It isn't that it took eight years to be 'proven right'. It's that the nature of the game as played meant it had to take years.

I've never understood the point of taking elite ammys and feeding them twenty garbagemen when the turn pro. Other than as a means of making easy money and padding out a record, it's pointless. There cannot be much benefit in taking a guy used to fighting elite guys and then getting him to fight roadsweepers.

But it makes them look brilliant. Better than they are, usually. I've been watching Joshua for years, looking to see if those flaws, exposed by top ammys when he had to fight elite fighters, had gone. They hadn't, but he was fighting stiffs, so it didn't matter. Whyte, who is a fucking mook, almost exposed the defensive frailties, but was far too shit to do it properly. Povetkin, 39 and off the juice, gave Joshua loads of trouble until he ran out of gas. Even Wlad, geriatric and chinless, nearly took him out. Once he stepped up his comp, he stopped winning in two rounds and started to look very flawed again. I remember debating with someone (maybe Hut?) about how he hadn't improved, but just looked like he had because his comp was much worse than the elite ammys he 'beat'.

Fast Eddie knew all along. It's why he tried to milk him desperately - taking near dead 'name' fighters or terrified plodders instead of dangerous punchers who would cold-cock Joshua or fast-handed fighters who would make him look awful. He made a bad error with this match-up. He saw a fat kid with a good record but figured he lost to Parker and is fat so although quick-handed he would really pose a threat. I'm delighted he got it wrong. It's great to see him look the fool he really is.

MTF

 

if AJ just avails himself to the hit and hold style that wlad perfected, he can win the rematch.

 

This.

Joshua has an unbelievably low ring IQ.

And unfortunately, the ideal trainer for him is dead (Manny).

But even if Manny were alive, he probably couldn't fix AJ. Lewis and Wlad had skills that AJ doesnt possess.

 

I think he would beat him. He won't come back and shouldn't come back.

 

I said that exact thing to a distraught Ghanaian the other day. Manny is dead, but even at that, I am not sure Manny could help him.

 

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It's like saying......."Joe Frazier get's hit too much"...........and then you are only proven correct when Foreman KO's him.

He actually got hit LESS by Foreman than by Ali.........but the pre-existing deficiencies combined with the specificity of the moment to give the end result.

Foreman had the power, and Ali had softened Frazier up, so that Fraziers PERENNIAL deficiencies finally came to the fore.

Wet roads don't cause accidents unless there are cars on them.

Shitty defence, chin and conditioning doesn't cause death by KO until there's somebody there ready to walk through the fire to land his own bombs.

 

By now Joshua would be scared to throw his own shots for fear of getting tired, allowing Fury to just pose and flit about and rack up rounds.

The last fucker you want to exist in a comfort zone is Tyson Fury. He finds it harder to sit down and watch TV than he does to get in a ring.

If Fury get's hit by the left that Ruiz was, it could be lights out. If AJ lands the right that Cunningham did, it could be lights out.

But intangibles intangibles intangibles. Would Joshua even dare to let his hands go, knowing 4 out of 5 shots will miss...knowing Fury will be playing to the gallery, knowing Fury has drop-tanks and AJ has only a few miles of gas in the tank at any given time?

AJ would be so worried, timid, fearful of a repeat that he would allow Fury to exist in such a comfort zone that Fury would clown and peck and make him look foolish.