AJ "Sways" His Way Back Into REED's Good Graces. JOSHUA-RUIZ Thread.

Indeed.

MTF

 

If AJ isn't earning, Hearn isn't earning.

Look, I've never liked Hearn. Ever.

But was it SUCH a long shot to think that they couldn't all get a few more easy paydays before finally taking the big one?

Not even Furys pro USA debut was versus Wilder....he had a Cunningham first.

 

Hearn is definitely the mega-cunt in all of this. That is unquestioned.

MTF

 

Is that a Clip from PISSburg's Mini-Camp???...






REED

 

That was my original point throughout............but they were making money and getting away with things.......when Wlad was starched by Sanders, nobody said "Oh, fucking hell, Universum, way to put the guy in with a tall fast powerful southpaw before the Lewis fight got made".

Instead it was "Haba haba no chin he quit fuck Germany haba haba"

Now...........it's entirely Hearns fault that Joshua insisted on trading with the guy instead of finishing him in a methodical routine fashion?

AND AJ's old man needs to come out and SAY SOMETHING....none of this "hinty hint" bullshit.

"You know how it is....they rob a young brotha, they SET HIM UP".....is not good enough. BUT! if he adduces actual evidence....then fuck Eddie Hearn...he need to reply.

I want to see an actual accusation.....and then....I want to see Hearn forced to defend himself.


Hearns already in my bad books....he's already come out and said, quite disgustingly....."This is only sports".......

 

That's Michael Irvin advising Cowgirls newest draft picks

 

Well we know Andy Ruiz won't be in it, it's called "Training Day".

 

I honestly think Hearn thought he had an almost zero percent chance of his gamble backfiring. He must have know about Joshua's limitations. They were obvious. But he had proven so effective in simply teriffying people into lying down or getting punched in the face and not punching back that he figured the limitations wouldn't matter.

The big risk fight was Wlad. Hearn was shitting himself that night even though he saw Wlad unable to even throw a punch at Fury but when AJ got hit, got up and won, he probably figured that no-one else but Wilder had the power to get to that shaky head. And certainly not some fat, mouthy substitute with a low KO record and a loss to a guy AJ shutdown completely. Even if AJ had a panic attack, and he might have (I agree he looked 'off' immediately prior to the fight) Hearn probably figured it didn't matter. All Joshua had to do was go out, beat on the fat kid then go home.

He got it all very wrong. And it will have cost him millions.

Good.

MTF

 

The Timing of the Wilder Offer Coincided w/Hearn Signing w/DAZN...

HEARN SIGNING w/DAZN, Mind You, for "Access" to His Fighters...Next Thing You Know, Hearn "Encourages" the IBF to Enforce it's Mandatory, Which was Povetkin, Who Wound Up Being Joshua's Opponent when DAZN Launched in the U.S...

Hearn Put HIMSELF in Front of his Fighter, Period...And Since he was PRIVY to Joshua's Sparring Exploits (Hasn't David Price Also KO'ed him, Allegedly???), ANY Bout AJ Took in the Interim was a Risk...

He Squeezed His Cows Tits 1 Time Tooooooo Many...








REED

 

Related to Mister REEDs point. If Joshua has a panic attack pre-fight, pulls out with an 'injury' and offers an immediate 're-match' on the same terms but in London if necessary, that fights gets made,no problem, and it sells out a stadium. Unquestionably. Joshua has a massive, gullible casual fanbase here and he still makes squillions. Short term problem, sure. But nothing career ending as this might be.

If that happened, and Hearn told him to get out and fight, he's made a monumental error.

MTF

 

I suffer from panic attacks. They are part of my bi-polar, in fact. If AJ had one, then he shouldn't have gone out to fight. Period. Anyone who has, or has had, panic attacks, would say exactly the same thing.

MTF

 

Could not have said it better myself.

In life, men apply "formulas" to things that are beyond understanding via mere formula, but men do it anyways.

Hearns applied the "Wlad" formula.........saw AJ get past that and basically said....."We are OK for now".

Hearn is a twat but was absolutely entitled to believe that they could beat up a fat Mexican and keep the money coming in.

 

I agree, you mad cunt.

Here's the thing, if AJ father comes out and SAYS SOMETHING....then the ball is in HEARN corner and he is OBLIGED to respond.

How's that?

 

Agreed, AgREED............ if that is what happened.

Joshua as I said might get away with it in England, it all depends how it is sold to the public. And if anyone can sell snow to an eskimo, it's Hearn.

 

Yeah, I can agree that that is true, and is what happened. That, plainly, is what has happened, we are in agreement.

What I DON'T AGREE is that Hearn could be BLAMED for it happening on this occasion.

When a guy like Illuminati says "I don't do RbR for fat people".........that kind of suggests that ALL OF BOXING knows this guy is getting beaten up.

Hearn was always going to hit the wall........but not THIS WALL, surely.

 

Sure. But I doubt it happens. There is a stigma at play here. AJ is a 'man', a 'warrior', no less. If his old man comes out and says he had a panic attack before the fight he will look worse, IMO, that he ended up looking.

Being brayed in the ring is one thing. Being 'soft' before the fight starts is quite another.

MTF

 

Reed thinks I hate AJ cos he is black or Black British or has a massive cock or whatever............in fact I find this all very hard to comprehend.

Hearn is a narrow eyed killer. He reminds me of Ted Bundy, in fact.

Joshua is coming across as a manipulated, used, guy.

He looks and sounds desperate.

"Best man won, much love to Andy Ruiz....".................what?

Hearn ACTUALLY responded to the AJ Father's brushing him off....listen to what Ted Hearn had to say...it's quite revolting.....AJ has just been utterly emasculated in front of the world and Hearn is saying "It's just sports"....fucking toff...never took a punch in his life. Fucking fag.

 

"Sometimes you have to just forget what's in play"

Yeah, it's not your head being bashed in though is it cunt?

 

"I am excited for this new chapter in his life. I feel there is a lot of weight off his shoulders now" - Ted Hearn.

"Hey guys I heard you all lost your last dime on a slot machine. I am excited for you all. This new broke phase is a new chapter in your life. I also hear you got assaulted walking home from the casino....things are truly looking up for you"

 

REED's Pre-Fight Stylistic Concerns were Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from Unique...You CAN'T Watch Andy Ruiz Fight w/Out RESPECTING Him, Eventually...

Literally, REED's Seen No More than Ruiz vs. Dimitrenko, vs. Parker and Maybe a 3-5 Minute Highlight Reel of Dude...And the Areas He Could Trouble AJ were GLARING...Almost Immediately, Most Agreed Ruiz was Actually a TOUGHER Fight than Miller Would've Been...

So You Have to Wonder Who's SCOUTING and SUGGESTING Opponents for Matchroom, Especially in a Replacement Capacity???...If There was a SAFER Guy Available, Stylistically, They Should've Went That Route...








REED

 

"Well done Andy Ruiz........he's now become.....a Playa........people have been texting me...my friends and that....asking, are you ok? We're sorry"".........this is how Ted Hearn looks at things, this is his prism for life.........players, winners, losers, excess baggage, nobodies, somebodies....fucking Ted Bundy I am telling you.

 

Who was checking out Corrie Sanders in 2003? Shit happens. People don't do their jobs. People get slack. People believe their own hype. Hitler invaded Russia seemingly not knowing it snowed there. It's a social media, fitness-model world we live in and people who don't look the part don't get treated with respect. Andy Ruiz is just one of those people, and easy-life Hearn is just the sort of guy who would looked at Ruiz and concluded he was utter utter human detritus.

I work, or used to, in a very physical environment. I see those fat hands and fat fingers and fat forearms and I know they spell huge trouble.....a lot more than any designer six pack or 28" waist ever could........

 

George Foreman is now offering to manage Joshua.

 

Exactly, Mr. Feebles...

ASSuming the Panic Attack was TRUE, REED Certainly WOULDN'T Trade Shoes w/Hearn in the Thick of It All...That's a TOUGH ASS CALL to Make w/Live Broadcasts in Progress and Shit...

But the REASON You're There, the REASON You Got to That Position in the 1st Place is Your Fighter. Knowing the CLOUT Your Fighter Has Worldwide, You Get Him Away from Whatever is "Panicking" Him in the Moment and Fight Another Day...

Instead, Hearn Got gREEDy...And he Thought Short Term...Thought of HIS Contract w/DAZN, and the Negative Press They've Been Getting Lately...Thought of the Ties HE Made to MSG Officials, etc...

Ruiz KO 7 Joshua was the WORST Case Scenario Manifested...







REED

 

This of course presumes there was a panic attack.

Somebody needs to go on the record here

1. Was there a panic attack?

2. Why?

3. If there was, did it have any effect on why he chose to leap back in after securing the first KD?

 

How Prevalent was YouTube in 2003 Irish???...

What You're Looking for is Enough Footage to Get a Sense of FAMILIARITY and More Than Enough of That Existed on Andy Ruiz Prior....FOR FREE...

A Cursory Visit to YouTube Would've Sufficed...






REED

 

Ruiz vs Kownacki for the KFC belt

 

I am sure Universum could get goood footage!

In any event.....the bookies didn't get this one right either...and they are totally dispassionate.

 

Kownacki fucked up {if he let this one slide} He could be the man right now.

 

Could be many causes behind it mate, it's not necessarily always obvious why, even to the person suffering from it. A lot of the time there doesn't seem to be a core reason you can pin down. Obviously I know nothing about Joshua's mental health or anything like that so I can't really speculate on that, but perhaps the pressure of being seen as the #1 guy in boxing's glamour division, the pressure to match Wilder's performance on foreign soil and the weight of expectation from back home, the gargantuan amounts of money being talked about...these could all be contributing factors, provided like you say, it actually happened in the first place.