Genuine question...

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Slice N Dice, Aug 16, 2019.

  1. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Was thinking about this today, and had an argument with an AJ fan about it on Twitter...

    When was the last time somebody in a major world title fight got tonked like AJ did and turned it around emphatically in the rematch?

    People might say Lewis, but that's bullshit, he got caught with one shot, these can be written off as flukes, he was never dropped four times and he never took a beating.

    Last example I can think of off the top of my head is Patterson-Johansson.
     
  2. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    nelson vs fenech?
     
  3. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    You almost have to go back to the "olden days" to find good examples. When fights are pretty one sided and decisive there will rarely be a rematch because of that exact outcome.
     
  4. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I fail to see how AJ-Ruiz qualify but LL loses (especially the McCall one) does not. Joshua was in the driver's seat and it looked like he was about to ko Ruiz before he got caught himself. Only differences with Lewis's losses is that he was counted out (or stopped by the ref) exactly after getting caught while Joshua continued for a while. But Joshua fans could argue, and not without merit, that the reason he looked so bad afterward is precisely because he never recovered from the knockdown.
     
  5. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Ok, by ''tonked'' it seems you mean battered instead of outclassed. So yeah, it this way LL losses are definitely different
     
  6. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Degale-Truaxx but it's arguable either we're elite (but neither is Joshua nor Ruiz to be honest)
     
  7. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    what about Bowe vs. Holyfield 1 & 2
     
  8. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    ?

    Holyfield didn't get dominated or knocked out against Bowe in their first fight.
     
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  9. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Scores were pretty lopsided no?
     
  10. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    benn vs eubank(s)
     
  11. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    not world title fights but

    Ouelett vs Davey Hilton
    Rosenblatt vs Pazienza
     
  12. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Nelson-Fenech is a pretty good example.

    Fenech whupped Nelson's ass in the first fight, and got big time robbed. But Nelson completely obliterated Jeff in the rematch.
     
  13. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    what about Wladimir and Lamon Brewster
     
  14. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ


    Wladerina was giving it hard to Brewster till the last round, and he barely got hit in the last round
     
  15. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ


    No

    Rosenblatt was whooping Paz before getting one punch KOed. More similar to Lewiss losses than AJ. And I guess youre refering to the 3rd Hilton Ouellet fight?

    I guess this one kind of qualify
     
  16. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Eric Lucas VS Glenn Catley is a good example.

    Catley beat Lucas like the bum he was in the first fight, yet got destroyed in the second one (he was damaged good at that point though)
     
  17. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Beyer vs Dany Green kind of qualify. Yes Green lost the first fight, but he was whooping Beyer so easily before the DQ, that the rematch seemed like a foregone conclusion. Beyer turning it around and winning the re was simply astonishing Hell, it seemed like such a foregone conclusion, that His Royness and another german poster, made a fake rbr before the fight that had Beyer winning, and everyone on fightbeat was litteraly tripping. Their epic troll job was soon forgotten not long after, when Beyer actually won the fight
     
  18. Deasil

    Deasil Leap-Amateur

    Simon Brown vs Terry Norris comes to mind. Norris was knocked down in the first round with a jab, wobbled at the end of the second, nearly floored at the end of the third and then dropped face first on the canvas and Ko'd in the fourth. Came back to win the rematch easily.
     
  19. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Kovalev turned it around recently. And I thought he had no chance.

    It’s a winnable fight for AJ, I think. But I won’t be betting on him.
     
  20. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Wasn't Kovalev well ahead before he got caught though?
     
  21. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Rocky Balboa vs. Clubber Lang
     
  22. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Paul Williams lost like 10 rounds against Carlos Quintana in the 1st meeting only to one round KO him in the rematch
     
  23. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Yeah, its way more common than some think
     
  24. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Like AJ was?
     
  25. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    First two rounds were close, wasn't much happening. I mean you could make a case for AJ winning them but 20-18 is hardly a massive lead.
     
  26. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Excellent example.
     

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