MUSIC: the official thread.

Covers are not supposed to be faithful renditions of the original. The best covers are always when the artist makes it is own. So to hear you critique the song as if the band even intended for it to be the same as the original is pretty funny.

 

The band doesn't know how to play the song, the chords are too grown-up ... that's the big secret formula, idiot

"Covers aren't supposed to be blahblahblah..."

Where's this law about covers written exactly?

There's a million ways to cover a song without completely ignoring the actual chords that comprise it ... in this case, the chords are abandoned, every meaningful aesthetic that makes the original beloved is abandoned and the result is trash ... they "made it their own" alright ... it's now an awful song

 

Also





DIE

 

Legit quite liked that solo

 

I just listened to it again

What a gift from Slice

 

Am hoping it goes viral so people can eventually find out what the fuck happened that day

 

Ive sent it to 5 people on whatsap already, its on its way

 

Same... shared it with like 8 buddies of mine

 

I just listened to it with headphones on instead of through the tinny phone speaker ... the sax is actually out of tune a touch... it was so loud out of the little speaker and the singing was shaky that I assumed the tune was in D but a little flat because of the way it was recorded (this happened a lot in early rock and roll/doo wop because recording was cheap as fuck, record companies weren't spending big bucks on production values for what they thought was a fad) ... the song would be recorded either slightly sped up or slightly slowed down so if it was meant to be in C, for example it might playb ack as something between C and C sharp on your stereo ... anyone who has ever had a perfectly tuned (A=440) instrument and played along a really old recording will have encountered this at some point

But in this case, the sax player is so sharp that I assumed the song must be in D but slightly slowed by the recording process... with headphones where I can hear it, it's actually in D flat (wobbly because of the ancient, cheap recording) ... the sax is sharp the whole time and really sharp during some of his "solo" ... an extra touch of incompetence that makes this even better ... I love it

 

You are trapped in orthodoxy. It's okay. The world needs anal studio musicians as much as it needs innovative artists.

 

You don't even have the faintest fucking idea what you're talking about. You know absolutely nothing about music, the people who create it, the reasons why they create it. You don't know how to do it, you've never done it. Innovation? The fuck do you know about innovation? "Subtle", "innovative", "ambitious"... meaningless tripe ... tell us, what's innovative about the shitty cover song you posted? What innovation has occurred? You want to pretentiously throw around adjectives to try and sound sophisticated, words mean things. Innovative means something. Bach was an innovator in the art of counterpoint (you don't know what that is), Haydn was an innovator in establishing a template for writing Symphonies (you don't really have an idea what that is but you likely assume you do) and string quartets... Mozart was an innovator in opera and Concerto (you don't know what that is) writing... Beethoven was the first artist in western music to forcefully impose his personality on his music in an unmistakable way (an artistic impulse we take for granted now) and stretched the possibilities of symphonic writing to levels no one imagined prior... these things are innovations... Franz Liszt and Hector Berlioz pushing the idea of a "program" from mere outline to vivid intentional storytelling without words (the first Tone-Poems) ... Wagner pushing at the constraints of strict tonality... Debussy taking a radically different approach to that same end... Tchaikovsky saying "fuck it" to the sonata form (you don't know) because it was alien to Russian music (and his own incredible melodicism) finding his solution through variations in tempo and orchestration to create his later symphonies... innovators all... Stravinsky introducing a hitherto unheard of insistence on rhythm as early as The Firebird (you don't know)... Schoenberg unleashing early serial music on the world (you...) , Berg and Webern taking that idea to then-unimaginable extremes... Bartok going further than Stravinsky... Jelly Roll Morton taking the art form of jazz in its infancy and putting it to paper for really the first time... Louis Armstrong introducing a whole new language to improvisation that flung the doors wide open ... Duke Ellington establishing himself as the first great composer of the genre... Innovators... Jimmy Blanton all but inventing standard jazz bass playing by playing walking lines in concert with the drummer... Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie pushing Louis Armstrong's improvisational style into a territory of incredible complexity without losing tonality... Gil Evans taking a classical approach to arranging for big bands ... innovators ... Miles Davis and Gil Evans basically inventing "Cool" jazz... Miles Davis and the first modal (you don't know...) jazz... Coltrane and "Giant Steps" bringing bop to a point where it was impossible to go any further without music simply disappearing into math... doing complete 180 and going completely modal and eventually completely atonal (again, you don't...) ... innovation... Miles goes electric... innovation... Stockhausen composing musiq concrete (you don't...) with sound effects and tape loops... Cage pissing people off by playing with the very idea of what music even is... Elvis introducing the sexually charged (for the time) singing and dancing style of black R&B to white audiences and blowing up young white society's sensibilities ... Buddy Holly insisting on performing his own songs instead of ones written for him by professionals... innovation ... James Brown changing the rhythmic emphasis of R&B to create the first discernible Funk music... Dylan going electric and forever altering the sound of rock n roll... The Beatles putting out Revolver ... Gram Parsons singing country songs in a rock band... Walter (Wendy) Carlos playing Bach on a Moog synthesizer ... Kraftwerk making electronic music that sounded a lot more accessible than Stockhausen ... The Stooges laying the groundwork for what would nearly a decade later be considered punk... innovative... DJ Cool Herc scratching records in an apartment on Sedgwick Ave (where my father grew up) ... Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five producing a topical rap track... Madonna basically selling herself as a full-fledged product (some innovations suck) ... I'm getting bored... these things are innovations. Doing shitty cover songs with a standard rock band lineup is about the least innovative activity there is besides being in a boy band... there are thousands upon thousands of bands in bars doing awful cover songs in bars right this second. You don't know anything about music, you toss out bullshit qualifiers that you can't even define... you need to be guillotined and your head used in a game of H-O-R-S-E between LeBron and Steph Curry ... hope you get pummeled and then actually eaten by the Cleveland Orchestra cello and percussion sections tonight

 

Lol. You expect me to read that? I was at a Flaming Lips concert a few years back in Mexico and they started singing, "Isn't it a Pity." And I was like, "Oh, they're covering Galaxie 500! Nice!"

 

No 90's innovations?

I always liked Chopin. And always been a Gram Parson's fan.

But the funny thing is, nearly all those examples of innovation you cite (Dylan going electric being the most familiar to me) were met with criticism for going outside the lines. And that's what you sound like. By the way, you think Galaxie 500 wanted to play the right chords but just couldn't get it right? Lol.

 

Both of those bands are student-college-no-money-nothing-memorable dogshit.

 

Basically, "you don't know, Double L"

Double L?

Die!ble L, more like!!!

Amirite???

 

The tune by Lambchop is cool but the problem here is that all those UK wankers claimed 'Nixon' was the new millenium's 'Pet Sounds'.


Wrong.

 

You feckless, ignorant dipshit... "Galaxie 500" aren't going outside any lines... if you knew anything about music, if you had ever been in a "scene" as a musician you would have encountered numerous people who don't have any idea what they are doing but who like to pretend to be musicians who get up on stages all over America and perform THAT SONG in the EXACT SAME "Whoa! I don't know THOSE chords" fashion

There are no lines being blurred here... it's fourth-rate stoner garage rock that's been done a million times for fucking decades ...

Tell us, fuckface of the "innovation" happening here? You're a glib mook... hope you get cancer

 

Hmmmm...pretty much.

 

Don't follow this^

With this:

I gave you more than 200 years of artistic innovation... of which you had previously been even vaguely like 10% aware and that's the thanks I get? I left out shitloads (including anything after Madonna out of sheer boredom from citing so many examples) of things

Still, I've given you a giant feast of seminal music innovation to acquaint yourself with so that you'll develop your cultural palette... you should be thanking me for this ...























Oh, also (as Wagner might've put it)

DÏE

 

Or, in simpler terms, readers - the whole record was probably recorded on 1 mic. and sounds like the real saxophone player didn’t up so somebody just had a go.

 

DI!

 

I eh i like your areola's eh... baby



Long weekend COME ON

 

Is it just me or can you detect a wee lull almost pause when the solo ends? As if theyre looking at each like wtf was that....should we continue...then somebody gestures like 'yeah man gogo, we only paid enough to go once, sing!'

 

Don't get the reference.

 

They're twins

 

Even if the lull isn't there, I'm now saying it is

 

Who the fuck is Bennett?

 

Mustard