Agreed. I like Inoue, but I don't think he's some kind of special ATG talent like some of his fans claims he is. Donaire looked like basura for the last few years, and clearly is on the way down, big time. Doesn't look too good for Inoue to have such a struggle with that version of Donaire
this fight showed inoue belongs in the "pretty sucky" phylum along with HW Usyk, Derevyanchenko, Beterbiev, etc
Inoue is really good, clearly. ATG is another matter and I'd agree he doesn't look like one to me either yet, but he's always compared to Pacquiao and Manny didn't look like one either when he was hanging around these weights. I'm not saying they're the same obviously but you have to let the career play out a bit more before assigning the ATG label to ANYONE.
Of course Inoue isn’t an all time great, he’s just starting out. Also Donaire probably looked better than he has in years and was very sharp. Like many have said, Donaire had a huge size and weight advantage which absolutely was the reason he was able to withstand Inoue’s power. A lesser fighter would have folded or been defeated when unexpectedly faced with a bigger guy who hit harder than expected and was able to unexpectedly take the smaller guy’s shots. Instead after two rounds Inoue adjusted and started outboxing Donaire. He was brilliant at sneaking in shots on Donaire while slipping Donaire’s counters and showed real heart in dealing with adversity and nearly being stopped himself.
Also, it is true that Donaire hasn't looked good in past few years, but Inoue was pretty much the stylistically perfect opponent for him (albeit a too good one). The same way Mosley looked better than in years when he got to tee off against Margarito
I've got to say, "styles make fights" is perhaps the biggest cliche in boxing and also the most consistently ignored.
How was Inoue the perfect stylistic opponent for him if he got his ass kicked? I’d say on paper it seemed like Inoue was the perfect opponent but once Inoue started boxing and moving more, it presented big issues for Donaire.
Because if you play it safe on the back foot against Donaire he can end up looking clueless. Carl Frampton had a much easier time against Donaire (albeit being a bigger guy) because he stayed cagey and played it safe. With Inoue you KNOW he is coming forward and looking to take you out. Donaire is a counter-puncher and style-wise that plays into his hands. I actually think Inoue deserves props for beating Donaire in the way he went about it.
Ok. That makes sense. One thing I found surprising about Inoue was how much more complete of a boxer he is. His ability to slip Donaire’s punches which were actually coming pretty fast was shocking. He showed a lot last night: durability, heart, ring iq, speed, timing, accuracy, and defense. About the biggest knock I see with him is an overrelance on head shots. Donaire was dropped, hurt and compromised from a body shot and Inoue barely attacked that weakness again in that round. At any rate he definitely earned his pound for pound ranking now.
'Preciate it Bruh... REED's Actually Shouted Out Fightbeat a Couple Times, Not that Anyone Noticed... REED
Doub is actually right. The solar plexus is located a bit higher up than where Inoue nailed Donaire. Two greats I can think of who consistently targeted the solar plexus were Duran and Arguello. And of course, both Floyd and Ward perfected jabbing to the solar plexus.
Definition of SOLAR PLEXUS Synonyms for Abdomen belly, breadbasket [slang], gut, solar plexus, stomach, tummy Specific to Inoue, his Body Shots Aren't Always STATIC On Contact, There's a Sweeping Motion Across the Midsection, as the Gif Illustrates... REED
You're Looking @ the Point of Initial Contact...Like REED Stated Earlier, Inoue's BodyShots Tend to SWEEP Across the Midsection... REED
Donaire was definitely the bigger man in that fight. I still think that as small as Inoue is, he still looks skinny to me. Obviously he doesn’t have the frame of Donaire,..but I think he could be a featherweight, with his skill set
I was more impressed by Donaire's performance. He even hurt Inoue and had him hanging for dear life for crying out loud.
Orbital and Nasal Fractures for Inoue... Injuries could delay Inoue's debut with Top Rank Tough Lil' Motherfucker... REED
Inoue's an All Time Great OFFENSIVE Talent, Potentially...The Most COMPLETE Offensive Fighter in Boxing Today, in REED's Opinion...Every Punch in the Book and Power in Both Hands... Donaire Looked Like Basura ABOVE His Weight Class...'26 was a Pipe Dream and he Had No Business Being There...Donaire was Like 25-1, 18 KO's @ 118 or Lower Coming into the Inoue Bout, However... REED
Inoue was Hurt, but "Hanging On for Dear Life" is an Exaggeration... Some Weren't Impressed When Inoue Wiped His Ass w/All Comers...Now, He Absorbs Some Shots Yet PASSES the Test Against a Bigger, Stronger, Taller, More Experienced Foe Who Can BANG, and Some STILL Aren't Impressed... Fighters Are Damned When they DO and Damned When they DON'T... REED
AgREED. Donaire fought a hell of a fight and didn't only show up for a payday like somebody else last weekend. In boxing you often see talented prospects try to go to another level against an established but aged pro. It's kind of a litmus test for both fighters. Sometimes the veteran can be a difficult opponent but starts to cede once they realize the younger guy isn't going away and they've used up their bag of tricks. Other times it's the prospect who folds. The veteran isn't making the job easy. They get frustrated and it exposes their lack of abilities and/or heart. It was supposed to be a changing of the guard and a celebration. The prospect forgot they were in an actual fight and not an award ceremony. Inoue didn't fight only a "name". He went up against a guy with heavy fire power. He was hit with some heavy shots, got cut pretty bad and still boxed and battled over 12 rounds for a tough but clear win. It was a great win and proved a lot more than if he took out Nonito in the first couple of rounds with one shot.
Watching it live I definitely didn’t think Inoue would win the fight after seeing Donaire take his early shots with no problem. The missus told me Inoue said that despite all of his easy success he’d become frustrated with the ease of his past wins and it was that and the many opponents afraid to face him that led him to move up in weight. He said he enjoyed the fact that he was finally able to have an extended all out fight and not only test himself but find any weaknesses he may need to work on. Another thing she said is that Donaire had promised his kids he’d be bringing the trophy home for them to see, probably another big reason he tried so hard to win. So Inoue let Donaire borrow the trophy to show his kids and he even met them and Donaire’s kids said congratulations Mr. Inoue.
An old fighter going down in weight is almost always a recipe for disaster , as youve said in this very thread. Lets not pretend that this was an incredible performance for Inoue
"ALMOST Always" Isn't the Same as "ALWAYS" Though, Bruh... You Don't KNOW That Donaire was Compromised By Moving Back Down (Despite 2 Wins in the WBSS Tournament), You're Just ASSuming he Was, Because Your Schtick is ALWAYS Being UNimpressed w/Anyone NOT Named Adonis Stevenson...Everyone Else SUCKS In Your Opinion, for Whatever Reason... Donaire Certainly Didn't FIGHT Like a Weakened or Old Fighter, Did He???... But Instead of Acknowledging That, You DISREGARD the 18-0, 16 KO's Portion of Inoue's Career and DISMISS Him SOLELY Based Off a Clear Win Over a Lower Weight Legend Who Tested Him... REED