Andy Ruiz v Anthony Joshua II

Usyk's ONLY Heavyweight Experience Consists of (Late Replacement) Chazz Witherspoon...

If he Goes Straight to Joshua, it's a CLEAR Cash-Out...

REED Gets it, There's NO Love or Glory @ Crusier, But To Just Give Up All 4 Belts @ the Weight to Be Undersized Fodder @ Heavy Would Be a Disappointing Way to Go Out...





REED

 

It's no cash out.

Joshua is a bum.

Usyk would be the underdog, but if he beat Joshua I wouldnt consider it a big upset.

AJ cant fuckin fight.

 

I agree but Usyk was very hittable against Magic Man Bellew.

 

A fucking men. Bellew could't hit Stevenson with a slap (and Stevenson is not exactly a defensive genius), while he was landing a ton of punches on Usyk. AJ destroys him without much fuss.

I'm far from a AJ fan, but he's getting severly underrated

 

Stevenson

 

No, Chazz Witherspoon is a Bum...

Nonetheless, a Completely Out of Shape Witherspoon Lasted 7 Rounds w/Out Being Dropped or Seriously Hurt Even 1nce...On LESS Than 2 Weeks Fucking Notice No Less...TKO Usyk via Exhaustion...

REED is Acutely Aware of AJ's Flaws and Vulnerabilities, But Going from Witherspoon to Joshua IS a Cashout Bruh...






REED

 

Not a cash out at all. A cash out implies no chance.

This isn't Usyk moving up to fight a prime Tyson or Liston.

AJ is shit. A top 10 P4P fighter is capable of beating him, even with a size disparity.

One man can box. The other can't.

Not a huge upset if Usyk wins.

 

Usyk fights with massive gloves, he's like a very well built praying mantis. Mothman Usyk.

He just sort of follows people around throwing those big wide awkward shots.

 

The real question is if Joshua is even better than Kostya Tszyu

 

If usyk had more god given talent, like say stevenson, I'd give him a much better chance vs Joshua

 

I can't wait to see it myself.

One thing I would say about Bellew is that he's got way way more composure and poise than AJ.

And Usyk might have been happy to let him land.

But as I say, just too hittable and too ponderous in his own assault.

 

This ones getting built up subtley...all the usual bums and verbalists are on board, Tony Bellew, David Haye..."Oh oh oh it's the done thing, all the great Cruisers go for the HW title, LIKE I DID LIKE I DID with Valuev, so it's totally legit...."

and then Bellew is weighing in...."Oh this is a danger fight for AJ. I've fought Usyk!! He's a KILLER"

......and all the time it's getting pumped up as a danger fight for Joshua, more PPV, more live gates...etc.

 

Try to stay on topic here. Let's get back to praising adonis Stevenson

 

Usyk is a crafty lefty. And he's got good long arms and good amateur experience. But that's it, really. He can't be any better of a boxer than even old Wlad and he certainly doesn't hit harder.

 

Wasn't he related to Teofilo Stevenson?

Or Robert Louis Stevenson?

Treasure Island Pimps.

 

Usyk is very nimble on his feet. That is how he'll out maneuver guys at heavyweight

 

Any Man w/2 Hands has a "Chance"..."Anything Can Happen"...Yeah, Yeah, REED's Gets All That...

Just Last Weekend, Chris Eubank Jr. Convincingly Lost the 1st Then "Knocked Out" Matt Korobov in the 2nd...Otto Wallin "Almost Stopped" Tyson Fury Also...

The LIKELIHOOD of Usyk Beating Joshua Right Now is Sooooooo Low it's Basically a Cash-Out from REED's View...2-3 Fights Down the Road, After Taste Testing Progressively TOUGHER, BIGGER, BETTER Heavyweights???...Go For It...

Usyk Doesn't Punch Hard Enough to WIN a Fight w/AJ...Motherfucker Couldn't Drop or Hurt a Completely Disinterested, Damn Near 40 Year Old Witherspoon...And Usyk GETS Hit, as Others Have Pointed Out...

Whatever You Think/Say About Joshua's Ability to Box, He's a Certified PHYSICAL Specimen w/a Capacity to Learn and APPLY What He's Learned Fairly Quickly, Based on the Ruiz RE...

Mikey Had a "Chance" (to Some) vs. Spence as Well, but that was a CLEAR Cash-Out in REED's Opinion...






REED

 

You're obviously a lot more impressed by AJ than I am.

He had a disinterested tub of goo in front of him on Saturday and still didn't look impressive.

Usyk doesn't necessarily have to stop AJ to win. He's a far better, and more accomplished technical boxer, and could potentially outclass AJ.

The Garcia-Spence comparison is basically an insult to Spence. Mikey moved up to fight a bigger man who's also a top 10 P4P fighter.

AJ sucks. If he were the same size as Usyk it'd be a blowout in Usyk's favor.

Usyk is too good to be completely counted out against a stupid, limited oaf like AJ.

 

I don't think you'll find too many boxing fans who would argue otherwise, however that difference in size and power is real and certainly not insignificant.

 

It's Not Even Like REED's Gushing Over Joshua or Anything, YOU'RE Going Tooooooooooooooooooo Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar in the Opposite Direction...

Ruiz Wasn't Disinterested, He Was OVERCONFIDENT...He Thought He Could Merely Walk Joshua Down, Bang a Few Winging Hooks Upside His Head Again and KO Him Like Last Time...Motherfucker was a "Tub of Goo" in the 1st Fight as Well...15 Pounds Ain't THAT Much When You're Already a Fat Fuck to Begin With...

Whether You're Willing to Acknowledge it or Not, Joshua Showed IMPROVED Mobility, Head Movement and Jabbing...He Fended Off a Handful of Rough Patches Along the Way Also..."Holding" Your Opponent is Easier SAID Than Done...You Still Have to LEARN To Do that Shit, Which Joshua Did and Utilized When Warranted...

Joshua Will Never Be Renown for his Ring Intellect But What YOU'RE Overlooking is His Ability to EMBRACE What he Doesn't Know and Capacity to Learn/Apply his Teachings Quickly...

Usyk's "Accomplished, Technical Boxing Skill" Won't Mean Much Once He Realizes Joshua's Left Jab is THE Hardest Single Punch He's Ever Felt In His Life...Then He'll Get Hit w/Right Crosses, Eventually...

No, REED's Not Selling Joshua as Some Foremanesque Puncher Either, But a Smallish, Non-Punching "Heavyweight" That GETS Hit Ain't a Safe Bet to Beat AJ...

The Mikey-Spence Comparison was Sound, YOU Just Have a Knack for Taking Any and Every Boxing Related Analogy THE WORST Way Possible...






REED

 

This...

As LEGITIMATELY Skilled as Usyk Is, Brother X Acts Like Joshua is Valuev or Something...






REED

 

This is the whole point: Lennox Lewis got KO'd twice and both rematches made or tried to make a statement.
• McCall quit because he was a) off his tits on cocaine AND b) Lewis tried to knock the sick fuck out
• Rahman got splattered big-time


AJ just ponced around and played it safe against a useless, FAT, Mexican cunt who never trained, because a) he don't have fuck-all power and b) his chin is dogshit.

He's the worst Heavyweight Champion in 25 years.

 

The FUCK Does This Have to Do w/Joshua vs. Usyk???...






REED

 

If Usyk is gonna take on one of the "big 3" then Joshua is the logical choice - he'd make the most money and have the best chance of victory.

Wilder would kill him, and Fury is too big and awkward for him.

The dumb oaf AJ is the most winnable matchup for Usyk, although I wouldn't favor him.

Calling it a "cash out" is overestimating the limited ability of the dumb oaf.

 

Usyk struggled with Bellew. AJ would smoke him minutes after impregnating Khans wife.

 

Usyk is very live against Joshua who’s deliberate and clunky and very live against Wilder who’s one handed and sucky. It’s only Fury’s size and movement that would seem to much.

 

Baloo tried to surprise Usyk off the backfoot, but he got nothing done, could only sustain it for a few rounds and as soon as Usyk decided it was time to press him he damn near killed him.

 

got nothing done?

He landed a ton of punches and won a lot of the early rounds. I agree in a sense that he was never close to winning that fight, cause he was spending way too much energy to continue like this for 12 rounds, but he got a lot done and exposed a lot of flaws in Usyk

 

I doubt Ruiz was paid to throw it.

I mean, with a man as reputable as Eddie Hearn running the show, why would you even suggest any shady business?

Not from Honest Eddie.