Lopez vs Commey

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  1. Slice N Dice

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    How good is Ramirez? I haven't seen a lot of him, he hasn't been on TV much over here. How close was the Zepeda fight in actuality?
     
  2. Neil

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    The zepeda fight could have went either way. ramirez is strong, tough and dedicated. Probably among the top 30 to 40 fighters in the game
     
  3. Xplosive

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    Ramirez is a good fighter.

    His strengths are that he has a solid chin, he's physically strong, good body puncher, strong jab for a pressure fighter, good left hook, has good handspeed and throws educated combos.

    His weaknesses are that he's easy to hit, and only fights in one gear.

    I seem to be in the minority in believing he'd give Taylor a tough fight, although I think Taylor wins.

    As for Lopez vs Ramirez? Ramirez could be a test for Fimo, could be too much for Fimo right now, or Lopez might just beat the shit outta Ramirez. Hard to say, but given Lopez's talent I wouldnt discount him battering Ramirez.
     
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  4. Xplosive

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  5. Neil

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    postol could be a difficult fight for ramirez.
     
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    In his prime, absolutely.

    I dunno about now.
     
  7. Double L

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    When was his prime?
     
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    Like 4-5 years ago when he stopped Matthysse and crushed Selcuk Aydin.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I'll say it again, but Lopez is very lemieux-esque. Would be very surprised if he ever become as good as most think he will be
     
  10. Double L

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    I agree that like Lemoo his biggest strength seems to be setting up huge one punch kos. But that can be a recipe for major success if he's good enough. For example, the ability to set up and land the perfect ko shot may be exactly what's needed against a guy like Loma.
     
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    Teofimo's CONSIDERABLY More Athletic than Lemieux...Better Handspeed, Better Set of Wheels, CONTROLS Distance Better...





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    He's obviously very talented, but I'm not sold on his skills and ring IQ. Sure his little shoulder roll and occasionnal check left hooks looks goods, but I'm not sure he can pull these tricks off on top talents, and I'm not sure he has more levels than that.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    don't get me wrong. He's a better fighter than Lemieux. But I see a lot of the same flaws in him than I saw in Lemieux when he was coming up and everybody was hyping him up as the next best thing
     
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    Teofimo's Able to REACH/DISENGAGE From his Target a Lot Quicker than Lemieux Ever Could...Quicker TO the Punch and NOT As Available for Return Fire...

    They're Both Bangers, but Teofimo's an ATHLETIC Banger...Lemieux Isn't...






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    It's Wasn't an "Impressive" or Rewatchable Performance, but Teofimo Showed Some Wrinkles in the Nakatani Fight...

    Nakatani was 6', Had a Weird Rhythm and Kept Teofimo Guessing...Sometimes He Brought the Fight to Lopez, Other Times Lopez Had to Track him Down...Up to That Point, Everyone Lopez had Faced was Either All Aggressive or All Defensive...

    Headshots Weren't as Readily Available, So Teofimo Jabbed to the Body a Great Deal, Which Slowed Nakatani Down for Some Round Winning Flurries Later in the Fight...

    To the Degree he Shoulder Rolls, it's Usually to Set Up OFFENSE, Whereas Most Use it as a Defensive Tool, Strictly...

    There's Obviously Questions to Be Answered Still...He's Just 15-0...But Aside from Loma, REED Wouldn't Give ANYBODY Else @ '35 a Chance of Beating Lopez...And a Loss to Loma WOULDN'T Be a Case of Teofimo Being "Exposed" Either...







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    LMAO!

    While Lopez will never be Duran, Leonard, or Jones, his career will DAMN SURE blow away LeMoo's!

    He's already better right now than LeMoo ever was, and by some distance.
     
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    And Broner would have beaten him, apparently...
     
  19. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    You've turned as much as an assclown as Neil. Ive stated in this very thread that he's much better than Lemieux was.. You've taken strawmanning to a whole other level.

    And it's funny how you act like Lemieux is some kind of bum since you were hyping him like the next best thing when he was coming up
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Again, you're an empty-headed ass clown. I never claimed that Broner would have beat him, only that the version from the Demarco fight would have a hell of a shot.
     
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    Agree. I just mean the two have similar approaches/objectives. But I agree Teo is way more talented and has more tools.
     
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    :D
     
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    You sensitive ass piece of Canadian bacon - if he's much better than LeMoo then why even make the comparison in the first place?

    Their styles aren't even analogous, you tard.

    If you feel Lopez is overrated and will underachieve, there's a litany of other underachievers you could have compared him to whom have similar styles, but you picked LeMoo cause your limited Canuck brain can't fathom boxing past Stevenson, and LeMoo.

    Who's Vergil Ortiz remind you of? Matthew Hilton?
     
  24. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Theres a lot of similarity between him and lemieux style wise and approach wise. You cant see it cause your "knowkedge" of boxing is limited to drooling over your new "crush" of the month, and denigrating boxers who said something you dont like on some tmz videos
     
  25. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    But yeah, thinking about it, I would say he has more similarities to Bojado than Lemieux.

    Disclaimer for X. I'm not claiming that Lopez will be as much as a bust as Bojado (he already achieved a ton more)
     
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    Then why even make the goddamn comparisons?

    Just state "I think Lopez is overrated and won't live up to the hype."

    Cause his style isn't anything like Bojado's either.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Again. I see a ton of similarities between him and bojado.

    But then, it's pretty much a boxing fan tradition to disagree on ''who this boxer remind me of''
     
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    No, they were literally nothing alike besides being offensive minded Latinos.

    Bojado was a lot more conventional, and not nearly as fast/athletic/creative as Fimo. Their technique, stance, style, NOTHING was similar.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Been a million years since I saw Bojado fight, but I rebember him doing a lot of the same moves that Lopez use (shoulder roll, catch and counter) and he was throwing his combo pretty much the same way
     
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    Here's his second pro fight. These were the early ones that got us all (myself included) excited about his potential:




    His style/technique was nothing like Fimo's.

    If anything, Bojado fought more like a young Vargas. He might have actually had more raw talent than Nando, but due to his lack of training it was never realized.
     

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