HARRISON-CHARLO II

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Xplosive, Dec 16, 2019.

  1. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Jermell Charlo has some pop but he was outboxed all night
     
  2. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Charlo knew what he's doing, was ahead on all cards
     
  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    The good news is that the mainstream was just exposed to three extremely exiting fights - all of which ended in stoppage.
     
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  4. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Charlo ahead on the cards before the last 2 knockdowns

    California officials are terrible

    Charlos chin prevailed
     
  5. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    J-Rock vs Charlo... let's do it.
     
  6. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Williams over charlo
     
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  7. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    WOW!!!...




    REED:eek:
     
  8. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Very entertaining night of fights overall
     
  9. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    agREED...

    TAD Early...

    NATHAN Seemed to Land in that Final Flurry...Granted, Harrison Wasn't Firing Back OR Attempting to Hold Either...

    Harrison DESERVES a 3rd Fight, IMMEDIATELY, But You Can Already Tell Charlo DON'T Want No More of That Smoke Anytime Soooooon…."Off to Bigger and Better Things"...






    REED:Hammer
     
  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    And on Fox!

    Not on fuckin DAZN where zero mainstreamers are watching.
     
  11. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    on fox. harrison bringing the fight to charlo made it a far more entertaining match than the first. and also gave williams the blue print to whip charlo, who seemed pretty clueless fighting on the inside
     
  12. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    I only worry cause the Charlo bros have more pop than Hurd.
     
  13. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    i dont think jermell charlo hits harder than hurd
     
  14. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Charlo vs Hurd would be fireworks.
     
  15. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    hurd vs anyone is usually fireworks
     
  16. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Perhaps, But He's Better Equipped to Catch J-Rock w/a Shot he WON'T See Than Hurd Is...




    REED:Hammer
     
  17. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Id make williams a -180 favorite over charlo. Though i expect the actual odds to be closer. what would you put the line at reed?
     
  18. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Based on Name Recognition and Coming on the Heels of an Exciting Come from Behind KO (Not to Mention J-Rock's IFFY Punch Resistance), REED Would Expect Charlo to Be a Slight Favorite...

    Somewhere in the -180 to -220 Range...





    REED:Dont:
     
  19. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    If Williams dominates this Rosario guy in January I think it will at least be a pickum or Williams a slight favorite
     
  20. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    REED "Gets" What You and X are Saying, he "See's What Ya'll See...Charlo's LIMITED as Fuck...

    REED's Saying Charlo is Limited in a DIFFERENT Way Than Hurd...Hurd's Antonio Margarita LIMITED...By Comparison, Charlo's More of a Sugar Shane LlMITED, 2-3 Notches SLOWER In Terms of Speed...

    Charlo's a TOUGHER Matchup for J-Rock Than Hurd, Stylistically...J-Rock Was Basically Chopping Wood in DC, and Hurd was the Tree...





    REED:Hammer
     
  21. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Balderas' Problem is a LACK of Head Movement...

    He "Holds the Phone" as Barry Hunter Calls It, But Balderas Relies On That EXCLUSIVELY...Like an AMATEUR Accustomed to His Headgear and Glove Being Enough to Block Incoming Left Hooks 100% of the Time...

    Balderas Has POLISHED Offensive Skills But if he Doesn't Learn to Move His Head, Soooooooooon, He'll Get KO'ed Again By his 15th Fight or So...

    What Sucks for Balderas is He's OLDER Than All of the Young Current Lightweight Studs...Balderas is 11 Months Older than Teofimo, Who's Just OVER a Year Older than Ryan Garcia, Who's 3 Months OLDER Than Devin Haney...





    REED:Hammer
     
  22. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Stylistically charlo is a harder fight than Hurd. I agree with that. On the inside Williams should handle him and on the outside I still favor Williams to get the better of it
     
  23. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    I'm actually saying the exact same thing regarding the difference between Charlo and Hurd.
     
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  24. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker


    Problem is a big part of defense comes down to reflexes - and Balderas doesn't have them.

    He has offensive reflexes - but on the flip side he cant see punches coming, which is very concerning.

    I wont write him off, cause he's still only 23, but his future doesnt look bright.
     
  25. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    I also think J-Rock is more durable than Harrison.

    Harrison has a truly horrible chin. J-Rock's chin is trackable, but he takes a better shot than Harrison.
     
  26. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Are any of these guys marquee fighters or are they all just exposing each other to an extent?

    Who is The Best Middleweight on Earth?

    None of them? Any of them?
     
  27. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    At 154? Williams vs Charlo will determine the top guy. Its unclear right now, but I'll pick Williams.

    At middleweight, I think Andrade is probably the best at 160, because Canelo has moved up and Golovkin is close to being washed up.

    But hopefully Andrade vs Jermall Charlo can be made.

    Truth be told, none of these guys are greats. They're all pretty good, but none set the world on fire.
     
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  28. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker



    Balderas had gotten far too full of myself.
     
  29. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    @EspinozaBoxing
     
  30. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    He should start with a new corner.

    The Reynosos?

    They've actually had a positive impact on Ryan Garcia.
     

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