Pernell vs Norris

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  1. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    If instead of going back down after the Vasquez fight, Pernell had decided to take on Norris after his glorious triology over Santana?
     
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    Initially I was gonna say, "Bad style matchup for Pea. Definitely Norris."

    But then I considered - there's a rather astronomical gap between these two in terms of intelligence and mental strength. One was a cool-headed genius.... the other a hot-headed idiot.

    It's not far-fetched to believe Pea could frustrate Norris into doing something stupid.

    I'd still favor Norris though. Probably too big and too fast for Pea. But just like Judah and Khan, with Norris ya never know.
     
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    norris woulda gave him a beating
     
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    I doubt that. Whitaker in 95 still a decent amount left in the tank, although he was past his peak.

    I think Norris 8-4 is more realistic.
     
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    It wouldn't be too shocking to see Norris giving out the treatment that Tito did but instead of building on it going overboard and then end up with a dq loss for his efforts.
     
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    Tito fought in Whitaker in 99 when Pea had zero left in the tank.

    In this matchup we're talking 95... that's two years BEFORE Pea got robbed against the cross dresser.

    I doubt Norris gives him a beating
     
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    Norris Wins CONVINCINGLY, Possibly Stopping Pernell Late...




    REED:Hammer
     
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    GTFOH! If a much bigger puncher than Norris in Tito couldnt stop a shot Whitaker, then Terry wouldnt stop a still quality Whitaker.
     
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    Agreed. I can see Norris stopping him
     
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    Tito had Cinder Blocks for Feet Bruh; Had to Be PLANTED in Front of his Target to Make His Power Effective...

    Norris' Footwork was a LOT More Fluid, Natural and Graceful Than Tito's...And AS Fast, if Not FASTER than Pernell's Footwork, By THAT Stage of His Career...

    Norris Would Find it EASIER to Stay Close to Whittaker than Just about Anybody Pernell EVER Fought...And w/that Range Established, Terry Would Fire MORE Shots @ Sweet Pea Than Trinidad Did...

    Norris was About as Aggressive as Tito Was and BIGGER than the Tito Sweet Pea Lost to...At SOME Point, SIZE is More Pertinent Than Who's BETTER Pound for Pound...Pernell Whittaker vs. Terry Norris is One of Those Bouts...

    Rewatch Sweet Pea vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez, the Only LEGIT '54 Pounder he Fought...Whittaker was Very Much TROUBLED by Vasquez's SIZE and Aggression...Terry Norris Would Bring That, Skills AND an Athletic Component to a Sweet Pea Whittaker Fight...

    REED Said "Possibly Stops" Whittaker, and he Stands By That...







    REED:Hammer
     
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    Can't Rule it Out for Sure...

    Pernell Wouldn't Control Distance as Easily as he's Accustomed to, Norris Would Let his Hands Fly and Even w/His Shaky Chin, You Have to Wonder if Whittaker Could KEEP Him Off???...





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    REED, for one, Vasquez was a bull with big-time power and there's no guarantee Norris would have beaten him. Pea in ONE FIGHT beat a better opponent than Norris did in his entire junior middleweight reign.

    Also, Norris, to my knowledge, only faced one southpaw during his reign - Carl Daniels. Terry him took him apart, but I don't think I have to tell you that Daniels couldn't shine Pea's boots.

    Pea had enough reflexes, smarts, and moxie left in 95 to not only last the distance with Norris, but be COMPETITIVE.

    If the question was Whitaker vs Hearns at 154, absolutely, Pea gets stopped. Whitaker vs McCallum, Pea also gets stopped.

    But Terry Norris was not on the level of guys like that, and Whitaker give a good account of himself in a losing effort.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Offensively norris was more dangerous than mccallum imo. Especially for a guy like Whitaker. Norris was a lot less methodical than mike, i don't think pea would ever be able to figure him out, and he doesnt have the power to deter him
     
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    Norris fights a great fighter close to that fighter’s prime? Mythical, indeed
     
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    Terry loved calling out Chavez after fights. Fucking tiny ass Chavez!

    I wish he had that same energy in calling out Trinidad...
     
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    Norris 116-112 or Whitaker by DQ
     
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    Whitaker by crushing KO jab
     
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    Trinidad could've stopped Norris with a different ref
     
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    Whitaker was a washed up drunk cokehead when he fought Trinidad

    that fight is meaningless
     
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    Same with Chavez after 1995 or so but people still like to hold those fights against him.
     
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    I don’t
     
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    Norris should be favored.

    But I wouldn’t bet on him stopping Whitaker.
     
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    Agreed. It's doubtful he even stops a coked out version of Whitaker. Just too cagey.
     
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    Yeah, Norris is not stopping Whitaker in 95, at a point where Pea wasnt washed up yet. Whitaker would go on to arguably BEAT Oscar two years later, yet Norris is just gonna run him over? Ummm, no.

    That's why McDogg and I get tired of the overrating of Terry Norris.

    Whitaker is not getting stopped like Taylor and Curry. Pea had a lot more toughness and defense than Taylor, and far more heart and grit than the questionable hearted Curry.
     
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    This! Norris was all about calling out smaller, fading fighters, hoping to trade on their name.
     
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    have you ever heard of the saying :''Styles make fights''?
     
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    Let's get this straight... this has NADA to do with styles. Norris wins on SIZE alone.

    If they were the same natural weight, Pea would kick the shit outta Norris.
     

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