Joshua vs Pulev confirmed

I think AJ always have a good chance against wladerina

 

I dunno if that was supposed to hurt my feelings, but I generally agree.

Difference is, Spence is a highly talented and skilled fighter.

AJ is pretty mediocre

 

Yea. Better than what I watched. I didn't see round 3

 

Nothing to do with hurting your feelings whatsoever. I like Spence also. Only the first guy that came to my mind

 

I think in my mind Joshua is either still gunshy from the FAT SON OF A BITCH Ruiz KO'ing him that he took minimal risks, or he just wanted to go rounds, because clearly he could have KO'd this typist in a couple rounds but the fight got extended

 

I found out they weren’t showing the Joshua fight on my side of the pond and literally didn’t care. Never been a fan of Joshua. I agree he’s a mediocre fighter and I agree he’s one of the biggest hype jobs in boxing history. You will never see this guy matched with Tyson Fury or Wilder and IMO he doesn’t even deserve to be mentioned on the same level as those two. I also believe there are plenty of other heavyweights his team will avoid to keep the money train flowing.

AJ is a top heavyweight on paper only. After his KO loss and judging from how it sounds like this fight went, he’ll probably be closer to a Butterbean side show comparatively speaking on the competition I imagine he’ll be matched with from here on out.

 

While he might avoid Fury and Wilder, i dont see him avoiding anybody else. Who are the top guys beside them, Joyce and Usyk? He already fought some bigger threats

 

I thought Joshua did pretty well,if we accept the premise that he has a new identity as a fighter, which I think he does.

He isn't the aggressive bomber he was portrayed as at first. Against scrubs he looked like a guy who could match pretty much anyone. I thought he could back then, I overrated him and I was wrong.

Now, he looks like becoming a careful boxer-type, which is the direction Lennox and Wlad evolved as well. He won't look like Foreman anymore. The development doesn't make for great fights, but might make him difficult to beat.

Here, Joshua didn't look spectacular by any means. He didn't receive many punches, let alone lost rounds, either. Also, he is early in the progress. Wlad looked like shit against TOS Williamson after his KO losses, but didn't lose for 11 years.

About "new era crap". I still maintain that we tend to underrate these guys because of their size and how they look becauseofit. While AJ is certainly not as good as the greats of the past, think of it this way: how would Joshua get bashed if he went full rounds with 190 lbs James Tillis, or ten with Jose Ribalta? No, he isn't as good as Tyson, but not as much worse as you'd think by just looking at them.

Also, AJ suffers from the same counter reaction as Canelo. Because people feel he is overhyped, he doesn't even get the credit he would deserve. Case in point, Joshua vs Povetkin. A clean seventh-round KO of the #3 contender brought him nothing but bashing here, cos he wasn't a superman. He still did quite well.

Now, we start to accept that it was a pretty good result, but "he doesn't have the guts to face the top contenders outside the top-3". Well, the top contender outside top-3 is - Povetkin.

 

I dont think that AJ style changed because.of the Ruiz fight. Against top opposition, bar maybe against Whyte and Wlad (to a lesser extent), hes been a rather careful boxer

 

I wasnt impressed. I thought the 'new skills' the sky propaganda mill were vaunting was just a bunch of moving backwatrds caused by visible nervousness. More caution is fine but AJ doesnt have his feet under him and can't command the ring like Lewis and Wlad could under Steward. Sugar Hill might be a solution, hilariously....maybe Fury knew that

 

Sidebar: Colbert looked spectacular tonight.

 

Seems a bit of an overstatement, mate. Going on resumes, i don't think there's any basis for saying wilder is on a different plane.....Pulev would be the second best W on Wilder's resume and it arguably isnt in AJs top 5

 

MTF

 

When he is attacked he still goes back with his hands down and in a straight line. He was a KO waiting to happen before he got iced and he still is one. Honestly, he reminds me of a gigantic Amir Khan. Fast, flashy hands to build a good offence but no ring IQ and horrible, porous defence now tinged with the nervousness of knowing he can be brayed.

'New skills' my hole.

MTF

 

His old-man xmas jumper with his own face on it

 

Joshua is basically a poor mans Cooney. He looks good against damaged ringworn guys who are brought in to do just that. Make him look good.

The number of damaged beat up and formerly not very good dudes on his rez is amazing.


I said to myself after the third that Joshua would disappear for the 4th and he did. And the 5th. And the 6th.

Hes just a big box bot who burns oxygen like a bonfire.

 

I don't think he necessarily has new skills, but a new approach might be enough to make him a bit better too.

Also, Wlad was a KO waiting to happen for 13 years, so appearing vulnerable doesn't necessarily mean it is going to happen. A guy with AJ's reach is difficult to knock out when he backs down, even if his hands are low

 

Exactly this. I knew his performance would be repackaged as a brilliant Arturo Gatti/Buddy McGirt thing with AJ, this New AJ, this Happy AJ, this Lucky AJ, held up as some sort of new found man, content with himself in his new body a man no longer doomed , a man no longer compelled to engage ALL COMERS in mortal lethal combat.

A man rediscovering his lost abandoned skills, skills we had forgotten he had. Skills he had foregone in order to please us, the demanding cloying mob.

This New AJ Happy AJ.

Truly a great era is upon us.

 

Klitschko had a better chin and was a better boxer. 5 times last night I saw times when Poo got through with right hands had they been anyone else right hands AJ would have been toast.

It's hard to overstate just how bad Poo is he literally throws punches like a guy who doesn't know how.

Because he doesn't know how.

None of this is anti AJ . We know what he is. He is limited and scared. Hes literally doing what THEY SWORE he would never do. Fight scared .

But we're responding to being told that beans on toast is steak tartare and that we should pay $29.99 for it.

Also...can anyone imagine Ali getting out of the ring and rushing into the crowd to greet the likes of Floyd?

Gayest shit I've ever seen .

 

Davarryl Williamson was better than the 300lb Ruiz and Kostya Poo. He would have found and tested that chin last night. Old Jiriv, Joe Messi etc would have all had a shot last night. Poo brought nothing.

THE thing about Poo is he has zero offensive talent. He takes a decent shot that's it.

What the TV guys should say is "AJ, like many others, thought he was Foreman or Tyson. He is not, and must cut his clothe to measure"

Instead

"Aren't you loving the new improved AJ"

 

Cos he doesn't. A cat that stays in a tree isn't a new dog beater. The dog just cant reach him . It doesn't cost 59.99 to watch the cunt run up a tree either with the neighbours all stood around praising his new skill set.

 

I didn't watch it, only seen the knockdowns, which did look impressive. By the sounds of it his stamina let him down again, and he is fighting in this backfoot style he adopted in the Ruiz rematch. He's not going to beat Fury outside of catching him with something big early. The thing is I saw an interview with AJ where he says the way to beat Fury is constant pressure, hit what you can, but I think despite knowing the right strategy, he also knows he doesn't have the skills or stamina to pull it off.

 

Nice to see you here.

He has to go after Fury and put it on him and I think he can.

The question is will Fury fold before AJs awful stamina gives out.

He's got to walk Fury onto a bomb like Cunningham/Paijkec/Fat Russian guy landed.

He can't and won't win on the back foot. Fury will put jab him.

 

I wouldn't put it past Fury

SKY are actually a disgrace. But who we gonna believe, Sky or our own lying eyes.

 

Cheers mate, good to see you.

Yeah, surely he must know this backfoot style will be useless against Fury, he'll lose every second of the fight. I have a feeling he will bank everything on an early ko and go all out from the first bell, knowing if he doesn't succeed he will end up copping a pasting once the gas tank starts to near empty. Might seem foolish but it's really the only route to victory I can see for him.

 

He can do it too especially if Fury indulges him pulling the funny faces.

 

[QUOTE="Irish, post: 1861538, member: 23"this New AJ, this Happy AJ, this Lucky AJ, held up as some sort of new found man, content with himself in his new body a man no longer doomed , a man no longer compelled to engage ALL COMERS in mortal lethal combat.

A man rediscovering his lost abandoned skills, skills we had forgotten he had. Skills he had foregone in order to please us, the demanding cloying mob.

This New AJ Happy AJ.

Truly a great era is upon us.[/QUOTE]

This sounds like how they would narrate a movie trailer about Joshua.

 

Williamson wasnt better than them. He got iced in short fashion by the average messi, and lost to kali meehan (bum). Wearing rose tinted glasses when looking at the past is cool and everything, but let's keep it real

 

This was an interesting video btw. Shows you how much thinking is going on in there, even with a fighter as basic as Joshua