OHHHHHHHH, fucking great one! I think I'm more inclined to pick Ohba in a close one, behind his brilliant jab and spiteful combinations. But I'm sure you'll provide a more comprehensive analysis . BTW, how do you score it for in Ohba vs Gonzalez? I've heard people call it bad decision, one that Betulio should have won, but I had Ohba as the rightful winner.
Rd. Oba : Betulio 1. 10 : 9 2. 10 : 9 3. 10 : 9 4. 10 : 9 5. 9 : 10 (49-46) 6. 10 : 9 7. 10 : 9 8. 9 : 10 9. 10 : 9 10. 10 : 9 (99-92) 11. 10 : 9 12. 9 : 10 13. 9 : 10 14. 9 : 10 15. 9 : 10 (144-141) Fair decision IMO, and I love Gonzalez. Great, great fight too.
Shit! I didn't know you had actually scored it lmao! That's the same feeling I got though. Before I had ever watched it, I had heard rumors that Gonzalez got screwed, so I was expecting some contentious decision. Then I watched it, and said to myself, "TF are they talking about??? Ohba outboxed him." Kinda similar to some people who make up the false narrative that Palomino arguably beat Benitez, when the reality is Will won by a wide. Obviously, Ohba-Gonazalez was a lot closer than Benitez-Palomino, but you get what I'm saying.
Yeah, for sure. Betulio and his people spat his dummy out at a lot of decisions. The Erbito Salavarria decision caused riots, and I've actually read that someone faked Lane's scorecard so it's s draw, not a loss. Canto's split-decision shut out was also in Venezuela.
Absolutely. Love that performance. The fact that it's a split decision, despite the fact that there wasn't a split second won by Betulio, is a complete fucking joke.
Similar to the "Majority Decision" in Ernesto Marcel vs Antonio Gomez, even though that too was a shutout.
I truly have no idea here. I can see both winning. Oba's jab could well be the decider here, as it was vs Gonzalez. Funnily enough, the first Oba fight is actually Betulio's best performance IMO, and the fight where I think he blended his pressure fighter style and his counter-punching prowess the best, tied in with his youthful athleticism. In that fight, Gonzalez really did fight like Laciar, with the nasty left hooks, nasty body work, metronome-type head-movement and short aggressive counters. He also was fully capable of fighting on the back-foot in that one as well. Laciar was a bit quicker, and more diverse, technically IMO. He also was better off the ropes and at countering on the back-foot. That said, I think Oba's best success against Laciar would be on the front foot, while Laciar is working off the ropes. Santos - while on the ropes - liked to try and bait you into jabbing so he could throw that backhand over it, like Archie Moore used to. Oba's jab was so good, and he could stutter it well enough to where I don't think this would work effectively. That takes away a big part of Laciar's game while fighting off the ropes, which is why I think Oba's biggest chance is to keep Santos there. Laciar would have to learn that he can only have consistent success while countering Oba's power shots, and he'd be getting tagged by a lot of jabs. I think he'd do what he did to Mathebula, and start to shift to set up power punches and avoid jabbing with the better jabber. Gonzalez's succes vs Oba came when he focused on slipping both the jab and whatever came after it, then doubled up the hooks to the body and head. Laciar could absolutely do this, and I feel like he'd use the uppercut a lot more. Ultimately, it probably comes down to who was a better pressure fighter: Gonzalez or Laciar. Without seeing their fight, I say Gonzalez. And so in this one, I very tentatively, say Oba. Even if I did say Laciar, I don't think the difference is big enough to make up for the fairly clear decision Oba took IMO.
