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  1. Neil

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    For starters holiday can guard butler better than anyone on Milwaukee during the past post season could
     
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    First of all I never said making a trade request was unprofessional. I have no problem with that even though I think there’s a certain way it should be handled so to benefit both player and franchise. What I found unprofessional was Harden showing up at strip clubs and parties without social distancing or wearing masks and violating NBA safety protocols just to give the Rockets his ass to kiss. Yes Fertitta’s statement was classless but that shouldn’t make Harden shit on his own pride and professionalism just for a get-back. Also Fertitta isn’t the celebrity here in the public eye the way Harden is and if the Rockets want to start a war of words Harden should have handled it the same way rather than shitting on his on reputation.

    The reason I didn’t address what Fertitta did is because players and owners do and say dumb stuff all the time that I might not agree with. I don’t address every little issue but when it’s a big one like the crap Harden pulled, then pro-player or not I’m going to address it.

    Also the owners CAN rip up the CBA. There is a clause that states something like if certain outside situations occur such as a pandemic, then the owners have the right to rip up the current CBA and renegotiation a new one from scratch. I’m pretty sure owners would still have to pay off the current contracts that are on the books but I’m not sure. Before the bubble was the success that it was, there was a lot of discussion about the owners possibly doing this because without fans in the stands they were set to lose a large portion of their profits which is exactly the purpose of that clause.

    Now I agree the owners aren’t going to do that based on the conduct of one individual but the owners have lied before about how much money they’re losing and we know they don’t like players having and executing the level of power they currently have. I don’t think it’s too far fetched for them to use these circumstances as an excuse to exercise that clause in an attempt to reign in player salaries. So far the owners seem to have surprisingly bent over backwards to not exercise that clause.
     
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    Ok so if there is no leaks, where does this information come from? How can these podcasts even begin talking about Harden wanting out if there were no leaks? Using the media to control narratives and to get a player from team A to team B has been done for decades. I'm not sure how you're not understanding that player's agents and NBA front offices use this and since Harden's agent is his mommy, any information regarding is coming from who exactly???

    Harden showed up for practice, did Kawhi? You can believe what you want, but Russ wasn't going to show up for shit, and that is why he was traded so quickly. Russ has no problem playing with all stars? Every all star he's played with has left him...

    I do agree with you that Russ is more of a professional than Harden, especially with the crap he's been pulling.
     
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    I hear ya on the attention he relishes in, but when I read Cuban gave Barrea that contract knowing he was going to retire, that's something Fertitta would NEVER do. PJ Tucker has not missed a game in 3 years, plays his ass off, has played out of position for most of the time with the Rockets, even CENTER last year, and can't get an extension. Having an owner like this is worst case scenario for my favorite NBA team. He shouldn't have purchased an NBA team if he couldn't afford it.
     
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    harden looks fat
     
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    Ok we’re arguing semantics here. I didn’t mean they weren’t leaks I meant you were saying they were unsubstantiated as if they hadn’t actually come from Harden and that is what I was arguing against.

    I honestly don’t remember if Kawhi skipped out on practice or not and if so I find that hard to believe any player would do that. Even if they did, there’s a big difference between Kawhi refusing to play for a team because he feels his health could be jeopardized and the team doesn’t put his health over wins versus Russ cry babying about getting traded. Was Rudd going to take fines for that? Maybe maybe not but I win this one because you’re the only one speaking in definitives here. Russ absolutely wouldn’t show up to practice if they didn’t trade him, what are you basing that on?

    Also teammates leaving Russ doesn’t make him a bad a teammate like Harden. Maybe Durant didn’t enjoy playing with Russ but both Olidipo (who was traded and never asked out) and Paul George have both had glowing praise about playing with Russ and Russ as a person. Harden hasn’t gotten along with one allstar teammate other than Russ. None of them have had anything positive to say about Harden other than he’s a great player. So at some point you have to think the issue is Harden who has shown this past week that he seems to have become a spoiled brat who has zero accountability for anything.
     
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    Harden’s gut has been pushing against his jersey for a while now. That’s why I think him going to Miami would be good for him.
     
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    Harden for Simmons is almost a done deal
     
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    harden is clearly not in the typical shape he has been in the past several seasons.
     
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    Apparently the Rockets have opened up trade talks beyond Harden’s preferred teams. So it sounds like the price on Harden just went beyond what Morey will be willing to give up to make the Harden-Simmons trade. With that in mind I think Morey saying there will be no trade is just to make Simmons think they prefer to keep him over Harden.
     
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    As Loooooooooooong as Holiday's 4 Inches Shorter and 25-30lbs Lighter Than Butler, He's NOT Going to Effectively Defend Him for an APPRECIABLE Amount of Time...

    A Play or 2 Here or There, Sure, But Definitely NOT Sustainable Over the Course of a Game, Nevermind a Series...



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    Holiday guards plenty of guys bigger than butler. He's strong as fuck
     
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    can someone explain to me why the fuck the clippers paid luke kennard 4 years 64 million? i thought it was a silly move to deal shamet for him in the first place.
     
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    That is a ridiculous price for someone who hasn’t proven himself. I’m not sure if it’s as bad as paying the same price for Marcus Morris who IS proven but only in the sense that he isn’t worth 16 million a year.

    I assume the Clips moved Shamet for Kennard because they wanted a more proven shooter and make no mistake Kennard has shown immense potential but his health and defense has been shakey and I’m doubtful his time on the floor will equal out to a higher return to what Shamet provided, especially at that price. The Clippers really need this gamble to pay off.
     
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    Broken leg Klay and rona Draymond have made the Dubs completely fall apart
     
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    Wiseman looks like a bigtime talent. Legit 7' 250 at 19 years old with athleticism and shooting touch
     
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    REED Doesn't Like How GS is Using Wiseman Offensively...

    w/Steph and Everyone Else STRUGGLING w/Their Outside Shooting, Play INSIDE OUT:Dont:...Get Wiseman Some POST TOUCHES to Suck In the Defense...

    And REED Ain't Counting LOBS Either; Wiseman Should Get 2-3 of Those PER Game Anyways...GS Will Be a PERIMETER Based Team, Obviously, But They Can Afford to Run MORE Low Block Offense for Wiseman Than They Have Thus Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar...





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    Some guy on Twitter said there's a new strain of pandemic P. :Jest:
     
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    By the time Wiseman turns 22 he'll be 280 lbs of pure muscle
     
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    I watched the Magic play against my OKC team whom I knew was going to lose. Not because OKC sucks (they’ve been surprisingly good and entertaining winning in Charlotte and nearly beating Utah). I just knew the Magic would win because they’ve been beating everyone so far, going 4-0 for the best start in franchise history.

    We saw a similar hot start from the Magic last year and possibly even the year before that but they always taper off to mediocrity and watching that game I think I see why it keeps happening. The Magic seem to be playing balls to the wall hard with both their starting unit and bench. The way they were defending and rebounding was just relentless. Don’t get me wrong OKC was playing hard too but they weren’t emptying the tank the way the Magic seemed to be doing and it’s probably why they have these hot starts before falling back to earth because the season is too long to sustain that kind of play for even a month. The best teams and players are the ones who know how to pace themselves over the full season.
     
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    Well there is a pandemic going on which leads to no fans in the stadiums. Is any pro sport thriving today?
     
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    A Better Question is:

    1. WHY Is the Irish Incel Concerned About the NBA's Financial Bottom Line?
    2. WHAT is the Irish Incel's SOURCE For This Information?

    Across the Board, Professional Sports are LOSING Money During the Pandemic; Everybody KNOWS This Already...

    But All that Matters to the Irish Incel and His Preferred Source of "Sports News" is the BLACKEST, Most OUTSPOKEN Professional Sport is Losing Money...

    Just Like His President, the Irish Incel's M.O. is Transparent Bullshit...





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    i dont like that deal for the nets. i wouldnt have dealt levert for harden straight up
     
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    Yeah this team is absolutely not going to work. You got 3 of the unhappiest superstars ever, along with one selfish narcissist in Harden and a guy in Kyrie Irving who I seriously believe is mentally unstable and possibly dealing with depression to the point where I wouldn’t be shocked if he one day off’d himself. I would be shocked to see either one of them taking a bench role and sacrificing for the team. Durant would but it’s not like anyone would be dumb enough to suggest such a move.

    This team has no leadership, will develop zero chemistry and will never win a championship, especially in this fanless covid environment. I feel really bad for Nash as his biggest job will be dealing with the ego’s and mood swings of his 3 superstars which will probably drive him back into retirement.
     
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    Speaking of Nash I never agreed with Stephen A Smith’s opinion that Nash getting the Nets job was white privilege. Like Michael Rapaport said it’s hall of fame privilege.

    Even when people brought up the fact that guys like Derrick Fisher, Jason Kidd and others have gotten head coaching jobs right out the gate SAS refused and continues to refute his opinion. He claims nobody would have gotten that particular Nets job right out the gate and I disagree with that as well. It’s highly likely that both Durant and Irving who both have strong personal relationships with Nash pushed management towards that hire and that is the main reason Nash got the job.

    I believe SAS is leading with his ego here or the fact people came at him so hard on his opinion as why he’s so vehemently sticking to his guns but I will say this: regarding the white privilege coaching hires versus hall of fame coaching hires of ex NBA point guards, if the day should ever come that Rajon Rondo wants a head coaching gig, NBA teams better keep that same energy they had for Steve Nash.
     
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