Underrated, Non-Greats at the Lower Weights?

The talk of Bredahl, McCullough etc, got me thinking. Name some lower weight fighters who were undoubtedly elite, but short of great. Think guys like Tatsuyoshi, Hasegawa. That sorta level.

The lower weights being 118 and below.

And God help the poor bastard who names Ricardo Lopez.

 

Guty Espadas immediately came to mind.

Not Ricardo Lopez, but certainly relating to Lopez, Rosendo Alvarez is underrated.

 

Guty Espadas was someone I typed out and deleted before making the thread.

 

I updated my post to include Rosendo Alvarez.

Hiroshi Kawashima deserves mention, making it impressive that Penalosa dominated him.

 

Jorge Lujan is very underrated.

 

So we've got:

Guty Espadas
Rosendo Alvarez
Hiroshi Kawashima
Jorge Lujan

Plus, some mentions of my own: Duke McKenzie, Yoko Gushiken & Pedlar Palmer.

 

Jorge Arce

 

Honestly, he's overrated.

 

arce is over rated by who? he's not as good as joichiro tatsuyoshi? is paulie ayala under rated? he beat tatsuyoshi.

 

Gushiken is the Hall, so I wouldn't call him underrated.

If anything, it kinda pisses me off that Gushiken is in, and Watanabe isn't, when Jiro is the better fighter with the better resume.

 

Alexander Munoz at super fly.

 

I've seen Arce called one of the best ever at 108, a great win for Carbajal, and one of Mexico's best ever. To me, that's overrating him. Granted, none of those were said on here so maybe he's not on FB. I don't think he was as good as Joichiro was, no.

And btw, Tatsuyoshi beat Ayala. But yeah, Paulie could make the list.

 

Are was quite good at 108.

 

tatsuyoshi was fortunate to get the decision over ayala with the timing of the stoppage. he was losing, to me. and i never liked ayala. but win for win i cant see any argument for tatsuyoshi being better than arce.

arce was young as hell when he blew it vs carbajal. then came back and battered a good fighter in choi

 

Joichiro was merely a "good" fighter. Nothing more. Are you sure you're not trying to prop him up to make Sahaprom look better? Lol.

Arce in destroying Sam Choi impressed me more than any Joichiro performance.

 

Lol, no that's not what I'm doing.

I'm not disputing that Arce shouldn't be mentioned, or saying he's a whole level below Tatsuyoshi. I'm just saying, from opinion I've read on Arce, I don't think he fits the underrated part of thread. I'm not saying he's a bad fighter. I like him a lot, he was always entertaining. But even so, Tatsuyoshi impressed me more vs Richardson than Arce ever has. I think he was definitely a better fighter with a better, although not by a great distance. Arce defo has him beat in terms of longevity.

 

Gerry Penalosa could qualify, if you don't class him as great.

 

Always liked Ricardo Vargas who gave Tapia hell.