I saw the "Jr" and assumed it was both "Jr's" In fact it is the Father. So HDJ doesn't have the power to keep him away. Today, HDJ would be a pfp standout.
Howard Davis would do well today. He would mop the floor with Ryan Garcia, that I'm certain of. He was also better than Haney. I'm not sure if Haney will develop into a better fighter than Howard Davis, but he isn't better yet.
Was sure this fight was about HDJ and had no clue why you were calling him fat. Yeah, Camacho outboxes Tank
I saw "Davis" and "Junior" Lightweight and omgimapassout. Camacho would beat Tank but would probably do a lot of running. I just think Tank the Thicko would allow himself to piss away rounds running after Camacho and getting caught up in a game of face-pulling or some such nonsense. Camacho was a very very cunning sort of guy.
I think Tank would really be screwed because he's never faced a guy with faster hands than himself. Hector would be nailing him with 4-5 shots for every 1-2 Tank attempts.
Forget Rican, I would say he had the second fastest hands of all time behind only Roy. Jones, Camacho, Leonard, and Taylor were the 4 fastest handed fighters ever imo.
I was going to say he had the fastest non-"Black" hands of all time but was sure it would cause trouble. He was incredibly fast. Bit of a wasted talent too IMHO.
It would be accurate. He's the fastest non-African American of all time. Other non-African Americans with incredibly fast hands: Laguna, Pac, and Khan. Yeah, Khan was a fragile dope, but his hands were wickedly fast.
That gets kinda murky in itself, and we're more talking nationality. Cause race wise, Ismael Laguna was a Black man. Shit, Camacho had A LOT of black in him, himself. You ever see his family? That's why he could get away with the infamous "I want Pryor, Mancini, all them niggas," line.
I'd quite happily rate Robinson right up there with those guys for handspeed. In a pound for pound sense anyway, I think guys like Katsunari Takayama and Midget Wolgast may actually be the quickest fighters ever. Speed demons of the smallest order. I'd like to add, don't you need to be born in American and of African descent to be classed as African-American? Because I was once having a laugh with a mate of mine and I said somet like "it dun't count for him coz he's black" and he told me that's it actually African-American, to which I told him fuck off because he's English and his parents are Jamaican.
I think Robinson was clearly slower of hand than Leonard. Significantly more powerful than Leonard, but Leonard had faster hands. Robinson had extremely fast hands, but I don't think he's top 5.
Yeah, your mate is not African American. He's Black, of course, but African Americans are the descents of southern US slavery and Jim Crow segregation. How the Hell is an Englishman of Jamaican descent an African AMERICAN? LOL.
Yeah obviously he was mixed race, and being from "Spanish Harlem" his language was never going to be too controversial.