Stylewise, who would be the ideal guys to make the following greats look outstanding? Tyson Roy Pryor Leonard Monzon Hagler Chavez Duran
My thoughts: Tyson: Probably Wilder. The oaf has no jab, no defense, no chin, doesn't clinch, and can't fight going back. Absolutely made in Heaven for a young Tyson to execute him. Jones: I'm thinking Froch. Roy would have a fuckin field day with Froch. Pryor: Hatton. Pryor would have given poor Hatton a vicious beating. Monzon: Arthur Abraham. I can't think of a guy more made for Monzon than Abraham. Monzon would have beaten 15 shades of shit outta AA. Hagler: Jermall Charlo. Marv would have given Charlo a terrible, terrible, terrible beating. Chavez: Juan Diaz. It doesn't get any more made-to-order for JCC than the Baby Cow. A cruel beatdown. Duran: Danny Garcia. My God, that would be ugly.
Oh, forgot about Leonard. I think Leonard would really shine against a guy like Kell Brook. He would destroy that mental softie.
I'm gonna keep it to an all-time great/near great scale. Picking bums to be led to the slaughter is too easy. I think 86-88 Tyson would look his best vs the Klitschko's. Wlad, especially. Imagine how the mentally fragile Wlad with his fear of people who throw punches would react to the fear factor Tys brought to the ring, and let's not forget the issues he had with Brewster's counter-hooks and Sanders' fast start. Tyson is all sorts of wrong for Wlad, and would win in no more than two rounds. I have literally zero doubt. Vitali wouldn't be quite so scared IMO, and wouldn't go as early, but I have no doubt that Tyson would walk him down and get under his shots like Byrd did, and then eventually knock him out. Everyone talks about Vitali's chin, but I cannot for the life of me see him taking, or avoiding the combo that KOd Thomas. I've always thought that LaMotta over ten rounds would be perfect for a SMW Roy. Jake was pretty weak over ten anyway because his style relied on late surges and he didn't seem to adjust that to ten, but he also was schooled and battered by the prehistoric, prototypical verison of Roy in Lloyd Marshall. Imagine Marshall's style with Robinson's attributes in a bigger man's body, and you get someone who's gonna give LaMotta a serious pasting. Pryor would probably thrive vs someone like Locche. Locche would make him look foolish at times, but Pryor would likely win every round. Maybe someone like Perkins would be better, since he wasn't half the defensive technician Locche was, IMO. I'll go for Mickey Walker for Leonard. Walker lost at least once to every competent out-boxer be fought, and not one of them were better than Leonard. He also embarrassed a fighter I deem a good bit better than Mickey in Duran, and just looking at them on film, it's clear Leonard is better. I was originally gonna pick Gavilan due to his issues with Graham and Bratton, but I don't think anyone 'shine's vs The Keed. I think Toney is probably Monzon's best match up. I just cannot see Toney coming close to winning by applying pressure, and it's not like Monzon would be baited by him. I already said why McCallum's experience was so detrimental in troubling a young Toney, well Monzon would be like that but a much better fighter. My pick for Hagler would likely be Michael Nunn. A fellow southpaw, which Hagler would like, and a taller guy who would force him to lead. I think Hagler chops him down in no more than six rounds if he fights as he did vs Minter, Hearns and Obelmejias. Hagler's footwork would nullify Nunn's speed advantage IMO. I know it's cool right now to just rag on Loma, but I think 135 Chavez hurts him bad. Like really, really bad. Goes to the body, has literally no respect for Loma's power and is more skilled. Bad beating IMO. I don't think there's much of a difference in the beatings Duran would put on Jack, Montgomery or Joyce, so take your pick. He'd batter the three of them, and they're all great lightweights.
Among the greats-to-very goods, I would have to say Norton is ideal to make Tyson shine. Mike would have annihilated Kenny.
Yeah, I suppose. Although I think in terms of how quick Mike would deal with them, any fighter with a poor chin is meat. I think as for a beating on a top fighter, Vitali is the guy to look for.
I don't think Vitali is an easy fight for Mike. Wlad? Hell yeah, Mike destroys Wlad. Vitali would give him a tough fight, though ultimately, I think Vitali gets chopped down late. But Mike would have known he's been in a fight.
I'm the biggest Tyson fanboy on the net, and I don't see it. I think Mike needs time to figure out Vitali's height, jab, and awkwardness. If it's 87-88 Tyson, then he's gonna adjust and begin pounding Vitali's body. Then by circa round 7, Vitali's hands would be dropping to protect his ribs, and he would be more open for bombs upstairs. Vitali has an excellent chance of beating the head-hunter, gassed after 6 rounds Tyson of 96-00.
Yeah......Can't disagree with too much of that but I'd like to see Pryor drop his guard vs Hatton and suddenly realize that he'd have to get down to business to stop him. Abraham might tuck up and be so negative and threateningly explosive that Monzon be reduced to running around after or just jabbing. I think Canelo might allow Monzon to shine a lot more because he's shorter than Abraham and would take chances getting into range to do his own work, without actually being any smarter about it. For Duran at 140, Tszyu would be your man, as you would see both Durans defence and offence. Tszyu would make him work.
Nobody had an easy night with Vitali. If you want, put Wlad in there, but not Vitali. Mike might eat a few jabs and start to puff up a bit. Pre-Injury Vitali was a better mover and jabber than anyone Mike faced until the Tucker fight. He's also the biggest guy with any skills. So its hard to see Mike improving on the Spinks performance, which is is "best light" by far.
Yeah, there's not a worse matchup for Tszyu than Duran. Tszyu's biggest weaknesses play exactly into the things Duran was brilliant at. It would be a slaughter.
Tyson - He already met his (Spinks). After that, I'd say Ken Norton. Roy - Pavlik or Arthur Abraham Pryor - Danny Garcia Leonard - Simon Brown? Monzon - Chris Eubank Hagler - Al Hostak Chavez/Duran - Lew Jenkins
