Vargas on Trinididad's wraps..

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    Says someone in PR tried to warn him..."watch his wraps."

    Vargas' team is criminally negligent if they were warned and still allowed it to happen.
     
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    2 Rules of Watching Your Opponents Hands Get Wrapped...

    1. Send Someone COMPETENT...
    2. Send Someone That Genuinely CARES About YOU, Not Just Your Boxing Career...

    All the Shit Wilder Talks About Fury's Gloves and Mark Breland, Jay Deas is the One that Watched Fury Get Wrapped and Gloved Up:Dont:...

    REED Loooooooooooves 'Nando, but if he Entrusted Someone That DIDN'T Challenge the Wrapping of Trinidad's Hands, It's His OWN Fault Ultimately...





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    Just watched Trinidad/Vargas again. There's no doubt Tito's gloves were loaded.
     
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    that settles it! ^
     
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    Ha ha.
     
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    Or maybe Vargas laid a lazy jab out there before he got into the fight and got hit on the chin by a guy that was warmed up thoroughly and Vargas never really recovered from it.
     
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    Nope! Couldn't be that!

    The Dems loaded Tito's wraps!
     
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    Close but no cigar. It was a democratic pedophile satanic cabal that loaded tito gloves
     
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    So @Double L , I rewatched Aaron Pryor vs Gaetan Hart last night, and guess what topic came up? Speculation that Hart's wraps were potentially "loaded" with extra tape/gauze after he previously killed an opponent.

    See what Gil Clancy had to say about that. It starts at 2:50. Gil Clancy, who as Tim Ryan pointed out, wrapped "thousands of hands" in his career. His opinion should hold more weight than some butt hurt Tito victims.

    It's the EXACT same view Manny Steward had on the topic. I think those two knew what they were talking about. I mean, with all due respect to late Brother Nazim, but Brother Nazim isn't a top 10 trainer in boxing history - Steward and Clancy were, but they had more experience in wrapping hands.



    Please, it's beyond time to drop this RIDICULOUS conspiracy theory about Trinidad.
     
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    Just so it's in writing, this is what Clancy said, word-for-word:

    Tim Ryan: The suggestion of the writer was that Hart's hands were too heavily bandaged, too heavily taped in the fights against Racine and Denny, and that could have lead to the tragedies. Now Gil Clancy, you've wrapped thousands of pairs of hands over the years, what's your opinion on that?

    Gil Clancy: Absolutely no way it can happen, Tim! The bandaging tape is applied to the back of the hands to protect the wrist bones and the metacarpals, it's not on the hitting surface at all.

    Clancy continued: They first put a layer of soft bandage and they cover it with adhesive. They have an inspector there and a trainer from the other fellas' camp. And after he's finished bandaging, they check, make sure it's not on the hitting surface, and they sign it. And those bandages stay like that until the gloves are put on. THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN HELP A FIGHTER BY TRYING TO PUT EXTRA BANDAGE OR TAPE ON HIM.

    The defense rests...



     
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    As I recall the dispute over wraps before the Hopkins fight had to do with the amount of tape used, and that New York has a limit of 24 inches of tape. Is that correct?
     
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    Richardson also has a bit of history with this sort of thing. Mind games and shit.

    One thing that has really been swept under the rug (like a lot of things surrounding him) is Canelo getting caught adding much more wrapping than he was allowed. Abel Sanchez called him out and it's been completely forgotten. Same with him beating his sparring partner to death.
     
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    I believe it was something along those lines. It wasn't like the Margarito situation.
     
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    I disagree.
     
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    Seems unlikely there is a limit on the amount of tape if it doesn't matter.
     
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    You don't wrap the hand with tape. The tape is used in strategic places to hold the gauze. Some places limit the amount of gauze, Montreal did at one point. Both Buster Drayton and Mathew Hilton damaged their hands so badly that they had to wait for the swelling to go down in order to get xrays.
     
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    The whole forum and the truth = Roy Jones.

    Doub and his theory = Richard Hall.
     
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    Trinididad? Maybe... Trinidad, sounds like a quack theory some numbnuts will never let go.
     
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    The sole purpose of hand wraps are to protect the hands from fracture - that's it. If they could be weaponized by adding a bit extra, guys would have figured that out and worked that into their devious plans years before Papa Trinidad.

    Punchers, like Trinidad, are notorious for having hand problems because of how hard they hit. The extra gauze was meant to offer enhanced protection to Tito's hands - not to augment his power.

    WHAT ABOUT THIS IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND??
     
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    Cuomo has scrapped that limit. You can come in looking like a damned zombie if you want.
     
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    It just so happens his first loss was when the matter was first raised...........that doesn't help.
     
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    Personally I think there is very little to the Tito story.........Richards kicked up a fuss because him and Hopkins are jailbirds who like to project and have a complex about "The man" trying to fuck them over. So they did just that. They kicked up a stink.

    By the way wasn't Hopkins with Bouie Fisher at the time?
     
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    Yeah I never heard that and a lot of the google searches are very inauspicious. Seems nobody did much reading or writing about it. One story is that a Mexican TV franchise said he'd killed Jauregui and then Canelo cancelled them out of spite.......
     
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    This looks worth watching

     
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    I remember Jaregui I watched him fight once and had a good punch but got hit way too much. That's interesting I didnt know he had passed away. It makes sense because both Canelo and Jaregui fight out of Jalisco.
     
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    He died of a stroke and the narrative was that he died after a stroke following a very heavy sparring session.

    Precisely what a former 135lbr was doing sparring a guy like that I don't know.

    Anyways this media outfit said Canelo had precipitated it.

    So he canceled them, despite they had "helped" him in the early days.

    I also hear he beat up some flyweight who had allegedly interfered with his wife.

    The flyweights manager congratulated Canelo on finally having "fought someone". :Jest:
     
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    Canelo seems prone to random outbursts of anger.

    I heard a high protein diet will do that...
     
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