Haney vs Linares

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  1. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Disagree completely. He was an eric Lucas level fighter (with more longevity), and was viewed, rightly so, as a fraud in his time. Now there is some revissionists that try to claim he was actually pretty good, but im not falling for it
     
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    Its kind of sad. You got a talented young champion who lacks power but wants to fight the big names. He wants that smoke unlike Crawford, Spence, Andrade and Charlo who are cherry picking opponents. People can say what they want about Haney. Call him a pillow fighter but he's not afraid to fight fimo, Garcia or Davis. Boxingfans are funny that way.
     
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    Boxrec's formula has Haney ranked 54. I think he's bottom of the top 10. I'd pick him over anyone at his weight.

    He's certainly beatable when he trades like he did last night. I wish he had more head movement. But, his talent and skills are top notch and if he fights to win, rather than impress, he's going to be very, very difficult to beat.

    He still reminds me of the non-quitter in my avatar.
     
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    Haney is exactly like ray leonard. aside from the punching power, chin, resiliency, etc
     
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    Haney's gonna have a lot in common with Ray Leonard, when like Ray, he gets stretched by a Latino from NYC.
     
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    i still doubt lopez haney happens
     
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    Bill Haney and Fast Eddie ain't stupid.
     
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    it doesnt really make any sense for either side
     
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    You're right. Whatever stylistic similarities there might be to Leonard's are purely superficial.
     
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    How/Why DOESN'T It Make Sense from 'Fimo's Perspective???....



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    its not a mandatory defense like his current opponent. so unless his deal with top rank is up, what network/platform does the fight take place? how much will he get paid? i could see him staying at 135 for a davis or garcia fight, but not haney.
     
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    Like ‘Fimo-Kambosos, a Purse Bid COULD Be Enforced, Prompting ‘Fimo-Dev...

    The DAZN Broadcast Team Even Spoke of it, Which Tells REED It’s Being Pursued From That Side of the Coin...

    Also, It’s Being Rumored DAZN Paid Dev $3Mil for Linares, Which is Believable Considering How They’ve Consistently OVERPAID Fighters...




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    so if he got 3 million for linares what will he want for lopez? i didnt listen to the broadcast commentary. haney has some fake regular title belt, correct? if its the wba maybe they will try to force some bullshit purse bid :Jest:

    if theres no purse bid where someone can outbid arum he wont let lopez fight on DAZN.
     
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    Speaking of purses. Does anyone think Caleb plant is trying to price himself out asking for 10 mil?

    I think Saunders only got 3 mil? And in what boxing universe is Caleb Plant a bigger name in boxing than Saunders and Smith? Lets be honest Caleb Plant's best win was Uzcategi(sp) and Truax lol. He's a glorified belt holder. If he dont get 10 mil he can say Canelo ducked him.
     
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    Pretty sure Eddie Hearn confirmed Saunders got 8 mil
     
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    I must have read it wrong

    How much will the fighters earn?

    Per Sportekz, Canelo is expected to earn a guaranteed $15million for the fight, while Saunders will make $2.5m. Canelo is also reportedly due to earn 60 per cent of the pay-per-view share, with Saunders receiving 40 per cent.
     
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    Wasn't it on DAZN?
     
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    Haney’s Got a BS WBC Title - After Loma Won the Vacant Title vs Campbell, the WBC Made Him the “Franchise” Champ or Whatever...

    If REED Isn’t Mistaken, Purse Bids Mandate a 70/30 Split Automatically...

    ‘Fimo-Kambosos is Already Happening Without Arum, Via Purse Bid...The Idea of a ‘Fimo-Dev Purse Bid is Certainly Plausible...






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    Considering Saunders Got $8mil and Plant Has the Final Piece to the Undisputed ‘68 Title, It’s FAIR For Him to Demand $10mil in REED’s Opinion...





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    The $15 and $2.5 were Pre-Fight Guarantees...The PPV Share, ie., New DAZN Subscribers Made Up the Difference...

    There was Also an Attendance Record of Over 70,000 at Cowboy’s Stadium...

    Saunders Walked Away w/$8mil...






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    I am not saying I agree with them but in the original negotiations last fall, DAZN had actually turned down Canelo-BJ Saunders and wanted him to fight Plant or Smith if he couldn't fight GGG again.
     
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    So thats my point you think Caleb Plant deserves 10mil guaranteed plus a percentage of the ppv??? Or does he mean he wants 10 mil total including ppv sales.
     
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    Not Sure What Plant Wants Specifically, but REED's Saying $10mil TOTAL...$10mil FLAT...That's MORE Than Fair...

    The % of PPV/Live Attendance Portion Could BITE Plant in the Ass, Otherwise...

    For Better or Worse, Billy Joe Saunders is a Natural Born SHIT TALKER; Caused a Stir During Fight Week via Ring Gate, Accused a Member of the Media of Having Bad Breath and Had the Support and Presence of Tyson Fury Helping to PROMOTE the Fight...

    Yet His Guarantee was "Only" $2.5mil or So...

    Plant Doesn't STIR the Pot Like BJS Does, Nor Is He Aligned w/a Certified Boxing Character the Level of Fury...It's Likely FEWER Eye's Will Be On Canelo-Plant...If Saunders Got a GUARANTEE of $2.5mil, Plant Deserves a Guarantee of $3mil MAX...

    Canelo's Guarantee was "Only" $15mil for Saunders, No Way Can They AFFORD to Offer Plant a Guarantee of $10mil...And if THAT's What Plant's Demanding, REED Agrees Plant is Pricing Himself OUT of the Fight...





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    If you're going to get your face broke, you might as well get paid.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Man if haney really got paid 3 millions, DAZN must be bleeding money
     
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    DAZN Executives: Pay his owner 2.5 million. We'll stream this Friday night.
     
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    They are getting the money from somewhere.

    It's not traditional PPV. It's $3 over here for a month. So getting people to sign up is fairly easy.
     
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