"Money" Mayweather vs Logan Paul in February

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    I never understood why Floyd chose to fight the wrestling background brother instead of the boxing background brother who beat up Nate Robinson.

    I didn’t think Floyd looked shot. I thought he looked rusty and I think he thought he would be able to KO LP whenever he wanted. So I think Floyd was playing around the first couple rounds and by round 2 or 3 was when he seemed to get serious and start going for the kill. If you notice he put up a high guard and started just walking LP down while throwing hard shots. This was the same strategy he used against Kenshin, the Japanese kid he knocked out during his exhibition in Japan. Apparently walking people down with a high guard is Floyd’s go to move for novice fighters and to be honest it actually seems to work for him.

    LP’s height and reach was just too much for Floyd especially when LP refused to fight and employed a survival mode strategy of constant clinching. So factoring that in I don’t see how Floyd and everyone else was so critical of his performance.
     
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    Because Ultimately, Floyd DIDN’T Get the KO.

    He KO’ed McGregor, He KO’ed Tenshin, Both Guys w/Legitimate Professional Fighting Backgrounds.

    Faces a Shit Talking YouTuber Who’s Significantly Bigger? Floyd Saw “Easy KO” Written All Over This Fight.

    And To Your Point, He TRIED to KO Paul, Yet Couldn’t. Floyd Himself Couldn’t Even Hide the Disappointment in the Immediate Aftermath.

    No Matter How OLD, SMALL or INACTIVE Floyd Is, a Fucking YOUTUBER Went the Distance w/Him. There’s Really NO Positive Spin to Put On That Bruh.




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    that fagget held for several rounds. if bayless was reffing then mayweather jr wouldve scored a stoppage!
     
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    Agreed, LP was definitely in survival mode and had pretty much dispensed with fighting back. I was fast forwarding most of the last three rounds trying to get to the part where the ref would separate them. Also LP was thrice Floyd’s size and it isn’t like Floyd was ever a big puncher. Youtuber or not I’m sure there are lots of big people out there Floyd couldn’t knockout just because he’s a professional boxer.
     
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    Man in future just Google ATHDE and try to find one of the sites that works, also have your virus/malware shit turned on too.
     
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    Yeah this right here.

    Floyd was making a lot of excuses as to why he didn't KTFO the Youtube guy. Floyd was wary of the dude's size and power, you could see he didn't quite trust his reflexes and also wasn't keen at all to feel a big right hand. His offence was limited to one-out counter left hook or straight right, and Paul was seeing many of those coming too, so it was jab/counter/clinch once Floyd realised he wasn't gonna get the guy.
     
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    Hell, Floyd ADMITTED Paul was "Better Than I Thought"...Nevermind the FACT Paul is Now 0-3, 2 of those L's to Fellow Youtuber, KSI...

    And Yes, Floyd's NEVER Dipped to His OWN Right (as Faaaaaaaaaaar Away as POSSIBLE From Paul's Right Hand) As MUCH in a Fight...

    Floyd Shoulder Rolls the Vast Majority of Incoming Right Hands, But to 1 of Your EARLIER Points, Paul's LENGTH Made it DANGEROUS to Shoulder Roll...Paul was Loooooooooooong Enough to CONNECT Anyways & Floyd Had to RESPONSIBLY Defend Himself as Such...

    But the Bottom Line Is, You Wanna Indulge in Clown Fights???...Especially in YOUR Preferred Discipline, You Better FINISH Your Fucking Opponent...Especially When You're On Some 50-0, TBE Bullshit...Can't Have it BOTH Ways...

    w/the Exception of Brother Sly, Who REED is Pretty Sure was TROLLING, NOBODY @ Fightbeat EVER Considered Floyd Mayweather THE Best Fighter That Ever Lived...Yet the MAJORITY of Mainstream Boxing Fans NOW Think Logan Paul Just LASTED w/"The Best Fighter That Ever Lived"...




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    This was the worst possible outcome.

    Had Logan Paul won, it would have been hilarious enough to override how fucking pathetic it would have been.

    If Floyd would have beaten the fuck out of Paul, it would have been a satisfying end to Paul's attempt in the sport.

    All this did was ensure more freakshows to come. And when people question why the brothers are boxing MMA rejects or clowns from other sports instead of boxers, they can now point to Floyd and say, "What more do you want?"
     
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    But didn’t Floyd practically hold Paul up after basically knocking him out?
     
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    Floyd was so great he didn't need to fight Paul Williams, Margarito, Prime Pac, Cassamayor,... cause he would have beaten them anyway.

    Now, he doesn't need to ko his cherrypicked sideshow opponent either since he could have if he wanted to...

    But seriously, I don't think this is unexpected. People overrate the hell out of boxers/pro athletes like they are some kind of superman. Floyd is old, inactive, never was a puncher and was always safety first. I don't think it's surprising he couldn't knock out a young guy, in shape who's much bigger than himself (even though it makes boxing look weak to casual fans).
     
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    I don't think people understand the combined effects of ageing, size, strength, modern PED's, training methods etc.

    It's almost impossible to NOT take a younger bigger man, with no wear and tear, and basic athleticism and teach him how to survive an 8 round contest with a much smaller guy who is basically half his size, especially when the bigger man is jazzed up on hype and the needle.

    Primo Carnera could not fight a lick. He was trained well enough and was big enough to last rounds with Joe Louis and Max Baer.

    So, lets face it, we have been here before.

    It's horseshit to think anything more of it than that.

    I don't know if Floyd knocks him out 10 years ago, but he definitely tattoo's the daylights out of him.

    If people want to think Logan Paul just tripped the light fantastic with TBE in some sort of a danger-zone......they are wrong.

    But hey- we're living in an era of hyper-narration and post-truth.

    Fuck it.
     
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    Imagine a prime 168 Roy Jones vs the Paul brothers back to back same night. That would’ve been such a treat!
     
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    Why bother? It's like saying "Imagine the airplane the Wright brothers had vs a F-22 Raptor"

    Why? We know the result.

    What we should be saying is "imagine Mickey Ward vs Logan Paul with Ward having been promised all of the money Paul made vs Mayweather IF he knocks the bum out"

    That's what you "Imagine".

    "Imagine" that, for one day, just one day, these guys had to live in the real world. And I don't mean stay at home, lock the door, run the clock down.

    I mean actually practice what they preach.

    Wouldn't that be far more fun?

    Why overmatch them? If DM wouldn't fight Roy Jones Jr why should Logan Paul or Jake Paul?

    Instead..........let's see Jake Paul, right now, right now........fight Tim Tszyu, for example.
     
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    Maybe but at no point in the fight did it look like Floyd hurt this guy. If he stopped him it would have been a tko because he's a youtuber that was too tired to go 8rds with a pro fighter. No shame in that. Lets keep things in prespective Floyd is 44 and 40 pounds lighter.
     
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    Thats 84lbs. Big difference alright.
     
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    Tim Tszyu vs The Paul Brothers.... Get it on.
     
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    Tim is a non entity bar in Australia. No way this fight happens
     
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    I tought pbf hurted him a few times with body shots, and was on his way to break him down. To paul credit, he managed to avoid them in the latter rounds
     
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    Lol.. the word ‘imagine’ is typically used to preface some sort of fantastical occurrence.. not to breakdown the next logical step (yet really, is it???) for a guy who doesn’t really belong in a boxing ring to begin with. As in I’d like to see these guys get blazed by a pissed-off Griffin rematch type of prime RJJ. I couldn’t give a fuck less about seeing them in a competitive or “meaningful” boxing match. It’d be fun to watch them looking ultra slow-motion vs greased lightning Roy… they’d have no clue a punch was even coming before they hit the canvas.
     
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    I don't think they deserve anything quite so drastic. Jones is a GOAT, for me, it would be far more fun to see them struggle- just as badly- versus a relative bum, like Mickey Ward or Gatti. Somebody whom we know to be a bum who could just light them up anyways.
     
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    Muhammad Ali did dumb shit like this too. In fact, mayweather hasn’t reached the buffoonery Ali stooped too. And I get it. Ali was broke, but still. He is still The Greatest, who also “embarrassed” boxing.
     
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    Key difference there IMO. The attention Ali got was good, in a sense that people looked at Ali doing all this mad shit and knew that they wanted to be a boxer. They knew the score. They were money grabs but they weren't as obvious as these. Plus, Ali was mostly still an active fighter in his little escapades. He wasn't retired and not giving a fuck like Mayweather. Furthermore, nobody's watching Jake Paul and thinking "that's for me". People were watching Ali and wanting to get into boxing.

    Ali's public image in the 70s was an excellent role model, he was a great ambassador for the sport. Unlike Floyd, who's ultimately done more damage than good. People who were watching Ali already loved boxing and wanted to get into it - because Ali was larger than life and ushered in a generation of talent. Whereas the people watching guys like Logan and Jake Paul, don't. They like those two, not boxing as a whole. You're not gonna be seeing people at the highest level in ten years time saying their inspiration was the Paul brothers.

    Ali was also beloved by almost everyone in the 70s. Both the Paul brothers and Floyd are hated in near-unanimity.
     

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