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What I am alluding to is two things said by the last England manager to win anything: Sir Clive Woodward.

* Paralysis by Analysis- basically managing the talent and the initiative right out of the team by trying to cover for every possible eventuality. You wind up with a seized engine that cannot turn over.

*Points from broken play:- see point 1 above. Broken play is when the ball is in play like in roulette, where it can "land anywhere"- it is what you do and how you manage in those situations where you are not quite in control of a situation. A lot of this is down to the players, but they have to be left alone to manage it without being fettered to death by an over finicky management.

If the ball breaks so that you are defending, then defend. If the ball breaks so that you are attacking, then attack.

In an example: if Southgate goes with Grealish, does Grealish, a man with 2 seasons of actual football under his belt, know what to do in those situations?

And, if he does, has Southgate coached it out of him?

I remember Butch Lewis complaining that Manny Steward was telling Oliver McCall "Hey you might be as tall as Lewis, but he's just a way more heavyboned stronger guy" and Lewis felt the fight was being chased out of McCall before he even got in the ring.

 

I met him. He did a gig at a local pub and my cousin, a big, rough shithouse door of a man, congratulated him for a good set. Tudor Pole stupidly responded with 'are you a faggot'?

Five seconds later, Tudor Pole was being sheltered in the cellar by the landlord. He hid in there for three hours.

True story.

MTF

 

I don't entirely agree: in terms of physical talent, 11 vs 11, England CAN win.

So why don't they?

All successful sides are a symbiosis of resources and deployment of same.

Liverpool finished 2nd in one season, and RAN AWAY with it the next, and then came 3rd [after a very very up and down season]

In those 3 seasons, there were 2 persons who by their absence largely determined what unfolded

2 guys. Van Dijk and Kompany.

The management never changed and yet there were varied fortunes- wildly varying fortunes- for both sides.

Are Man City and Pep really not good enough to beat Chelsea?

Was the Titanic not good enough to get across the seas? I mean she floated, no?

It's there. It's just a question of not fucking it up.

 

I tend to think that the obvious answer is usually the right one.

England have good players. As I've said, I think this is their strongest side in a decade. And there are no really standout teams to beat, ala Spain 2008.

But there are other teams who, on paper, have better players. France certainly do. And other teams have looked much better teams - Italy for one and even Denmark the other night played football which was far beyond anything England have turned out so far. And I'm not sold at all on the manager. I think he's far too conservative. Other teams have better managers imo.

That's why England will lose.

MTF

 

It seems dickheadedness is an old and time-honoured trait.

When I was on the sites there was a massive geezer from Newcastle who handled the dogs [security, the place was prone to being turned over, Slough....guys not being paid for shoddy work etc] and he walked up to me and said "Canny Day".......... I hadn't a clue and I kept asking him "what"- only for the gaffer was there I'd have had a real issue as the guy was sure I was taking the piss.

I kept trying to translate it in my mind as "Cannae" as in "Can Not"..........."Can Not Day..........".........What?

Jesus I haven't been to a gig in ages. Last gig I went to a mate- now a barrister- was "MANAGING" the band. Yep, Managing.

There was tits and coke everywhere. He went bald in the end, all grey and bald and old and met this cut-glass madam who had 1 kid with him and rules his fucking life.

 

I often forget that 'canny' isn't a universally used word. I use it regularly and confuse the life out of non-natives.

Sounds like your pal has it made...

MTF

 

yes. It came from a lab. Now back to football......


I think they will lose because they have an inferiority complex that simply cannot be solved by the likes of Southgate.

Remember Aragones? Aragones, the man who launched Spain's mad 4 year run.....once told a Gypsy called Antonio Reyes to "not let that black son of a bitch get the ball off you" [referring to Thierry Henry]

The World [excluding Ireland] was outraged. Spain won.

Aragones would tell Harry Maguire that he OWNED MBabby. He'd have Maguire thinking he had Gene Kelly's footwork and Ned Kellys balls.

Instead, Southgate will scare them all half to fucking death and they'll be beat before they walk out.

Maybe I am just waffling here, but think about Denny Mancini and Terry Lawless. After the first round vs McClellan, they told Benn that "McClellan was DONE, he'd dropped his bollox".

Benn had literally just had the worst round of his life, but Mancini- who lived in the real world, knew there was no point in telling Benn the obvious.

 

Why are Scots always "Canny". Why not just "SMART" or "Intelligent".

Same with the Welsh. They are Wizards or Crafty.

 

Canny is a very versatile word. It also means 'good' as well as 'crafty'.

Life would be boring if we all sounded the same, no?

MTF

 

I cannot stand the Chattering sorts who hope England lose. I cannot stand the Chattering sorts who hope they win, so they can push St Raheem or whatever.

I find myself torn everytime.

Ideally..........modern England side with 90's commentary would be ideal

 

In the meantime, have Liverpool SIGNED anyone?

 

I usually like to see England do well in tournaments with the caveat that i'd support anybody but them at the sharp end if they actually got to a final. Ditto the huns in Europe.

 

'Gene Kelly's footwork & Ned Kelly's balls' hehehe

 

Here is Klopp at a tennis match in Mallorca along with Mario Gotze. Thinking outside the box and not just scouting at football pitches.

 

Who is going to sign a manger first between Spurs and Everton?

 

Court rules that Dalian Atkinson was killed unlawfully but not murdered by a Police man.

More knees. More illiterate clowns.

 

"Kopite"- I think he means "KOPPITE"

Precisely the sort of semi-literate brilliance that gets Scousers a shit reputation

 

Tell that cunt plays for NUFC.

MTF

 

And the commentators never mentioned it, I am sure.

If he goes down the far end and scores like Allison, then he'll be Martin Dubravka of NUFC.

 

Yeah this is huuuuge news like
Scotland striker Ross to depart Man Utd

 

If i was a betting man i would take Spain to hold this 3-0 lead.

 

Yes, and you would get 1/5,000 odds, too.

I'd take those odds. £5000 gets you a quid.

That quid gets you 4 numbers on the roulette grid at £0.25 a pop.

You nail that, you're looking at £9.

You keep that up.....

 

Poland giving it a bit of a go. Finally. Lewnadowski with a pearler after missing two sitters.

 

Oh wow 2-2 but the flag is up.

Good effort from Poland.

 

That 4th goal by Spain could be their undoing. Now they could get overconfident.

 

GET BACK IN THE ROULETTE ROOM, BUM

 

Where was this fire from Poland before hand?

 

Hungary, literally, have found a parade to piss on

Germany will never, ever be in a position to lecture ANYONE on matters of morality.

I hope Hungary beat them and then launch punitive raids across Slovakia and into Germany.

Then demand tribute from smelly Merkel

 

I am watching Germany vs Hungary, the ANGUISH in the voice of the commentator when he was compelled to report that Portugal had scored.

And I do mean anguish.

The chap literally sounded like he was trying to fart quietly and tell us about a goal at the same time.

You will get evens now on France or Draw AND Germany or Draw.

So basically bet on France and Germany to not lose and get even odds.

 

Restate Irish Dictum:-

"There are no monsters in World football".